Nutrition
I am studying AoR reflexology, and would like to do a course in nutition to complimentit.
I am not sure how to find a course that will fit the bill. Has anyone done one that has proved useful? If so, what was it.
Seasons greeting to you all. [sm=xmas-smiley-043.gif]
Love,
Footsie X
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Hi Footsie,
What level course are you looking for- in other words exactly how would you like to utilise the qualification that you'd gain? I ask because there's a great deal of difference (in the law) between dispensing nutritional advice and guidance and doing a course with the aim of improving your knowledge so you can get a more holistic sense of their health and possibly make the odd suggestion to them.
If you are looking for a qualification in nutrition to use alongside your reflexology (and therefore be qualified to offer guidance) you need a qualification in nutritional therapy. See the British Association of Nutritional Therapists for more details>
If you run a search in the Student and Training Forum you should find previous discussions in which qualifications such as the ITEC diploma in nutrition and various other colleges and quals are discussed.
Good luck!
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Hi Azalia,
Many thanks for your reply. I am not sure what I am looking for yet, or how deep I want to go! I am at the exploring stage.
The 'doing a course with the aim of improvingmy knowledge so I can get a more holistic sense of their health and possibly make the odd suggestion to them' is basically what I had in mind, but if I found somethingwith greater depthand of interest to me, I would consider doing that.
By posting here, I was casting my net to see what paths other reflexologists had found to be of good, constructive, use to them.
Footsie X
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Hi again Footsie [sm=wave.gif]
..Sounds a good place to be! Maybe these links will help...
(VTCT do a similar qualification Level 3 Diploma in Non-Medical Nutritional Advice (D1055)- see the description taken from their site, *here*
There have been several other discussions on which courses andrecommendable collegesto which I've written replies...but unfortunately have lost track of them. If you're at the gathering info stage, I'd check out all the colleges- Plaskett (website currently being re-designed/relocated)Institute of Optimum Nutrition (of Patrick Holford fame) College of Nutrition and Natural Therapy, the Nutritional Healing Foundation...etc. There's more links to be found on this useful page from the Nutritional Therapy Council
Other than the above kind of courses, have you considered things like naturopathy and kinesiology, in which nutrition plays a part. Kinesiology is particularly interesting actually, and would tie in with the reflex quite nicely..like a natural progression. There's also oriental medicine to consider. See *here* for LCTA's PGdip and MSc in nutrition for healthcare practioners.
There's loads to look up, places to contact and brochures to request, but hopefully that should give you some sort of starting point!
Always a good idea;)From my own experience I haven't ever met a reflexologist that has gone into nutrition and used that alongside their professionalpractice...but I'm sure there must be some about. I do know a reflexologist whowent onto kinesiology and then molecular biology though!!
With a bit of luck a fellow reflexologist will come along and share!:D
Best wishes,
Azalia.
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Hi Azalia,
Well, that reply constitutes a Christmas gift. Many. many thanks for such an in depth repy.
No, I hadn't considered naturopathyor kinesiology, or even thought past the possibility of nutrition, but it is a very interesting thought and one that I will explore fully.
Thank you again.
Have a lovely day.
[sm=smilie_schneekugel2.gif]
Footsie X
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Hi Footsie and Azalia
Just a quick message to let you know that I practice reflexology (as well as other therapies) and am doing the Diploma in Nutrition at PH's Institute for Optimum Nutrition. It is accredited by the University of Bedfordshire but tuition is in Central London.
If you don't have chemistry, biology or A&P you will have to do their science access course but they will exempt you from the ones you do have, i.e I didn't have to do A&P, but did have to do the other two. The "modules" for the science access course aren't cheap, approx £500-£600 each and then the course itself is costing approx £3000 a year, not including travel and accomodation if needed (I am in Scotland, so costing a fortune)
The course is pretty heavy going with lectures from 10am till 5.30pm on a Sat and Sun once a month but you also have a seminar night (3 hours once a month) and the volume of work to do at home is a struggle (I am finding, but also started up own business, so it all compounds on it)
I am not doing the Dip in Nut to "complement" the existing therapies I do but to eventually expand in the field of nutrition and make this my main occupation as getting to old to do full body massages all day!!
The thing about doing some of the other nutrition courses is them being accredited. I could have gone for some "smaller" courses in Scotland but none were Bant registered which is why I have to travel.
Love
Patchouli
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Hi Patchouli,
Thank you for your reply. All of this is helping me tremendously.
I have a case study, who I am treating for fertility. She has just been to see a nutritionist, and has shared the experience and report with me. It was excellent and very helpful for both of us. The nutritionist studied with the Institute for Optimum Nutrition too. So Patchoulihang on in there, you are on a good course.
Have a peaceful day.
Love,[sm=xmas-smiley-010.gif]Footsie X
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No doubt all this is keeping you occupied throughout your Christmas Holiday:D
No worries! I've been there and done quite a bit of research myself, having consideredDietetics as a degree at University. The qualification Patchouliis doing is at the same level BTW, as both require the Science Access course or the Biology + ChemistryA levels.
Footsie, do you own any of Ian Marber's books (The "Food Doctor" series)? If you don't then I'd recommend at least having a brief look at them because a) there's some great recipes in there and b) the basics of good nutrition are all explained really simply, andbeing IONqualified Mr Marber might give you some inspiration. Just a thought.
Hopefully you'll get some other replies from members who might be able to share some useful stuff with you, and in the meantime, happy searching!
Azalia x
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Hi Azalia,
Yep! Christmas was sorted!! I've been exploring your links and got lots of leads. Still undecided about where I'm heading though.
Now then Ian Marber; I haven't heard of him before, but Amazon has......... which book should I buy, my finger is poised over the 'buy now with one click button'. I'm tempted to buy healing foods for mind and body. Before I commit, is there a better choice I could have made?
[sm=smillie_sylvester.gif]Footsie X
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Have you parted with your money yet, or are you 'sleeping on it'? If you have, then by the looks of it, and reading the reviews, then healing foods for mind and body looks like a good choice. I haven't ever read that one, and whilst I certainly wouldn't discount it, I wonder whether the Food Doctor Diet books would be interesting, regarding his approach. It seems like you can get a good idea of the way that he practices through those books, which might be interesting. I didn't want to recommend parting with cash necessarily, because while they are good books, they might not teach you anything new. (His principles are based around the complex carbs + small amounts of protein at every meal, the 80:20 rule etc..)I'd recommend getting The Food Doctor Diet or the Food Doctor Everyday Dietout of the library. (You can look up the books your library has on the online catologue if you have a library card and request books if they don't have them, see your local council's website for details.)
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No, my finger was still poised!
Boy am I learning here. I have just explored my council website, located the library catalogue, and find that the Food Doctor Diet is there, and in stock. I will go and see about borrowing it next week.
Thank you Azalia
Love,
Footsie X
Answers:
Hi Footsie
I would also recommend anything by Patrick Holford and there are also two books that are essential reading on the ION course...."Health Defence" by Dr Paul Clayton and "Nutrition, A Health promotion approach"
These are still easy to follow but are more academic than commercial, if you know what I mean.
You may be able to get these at the library too, you will definitely be able to get most of PH's books as I would guess he is "God" to most in the nutrition field!!
Love
Patchouli
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Yup- Patrick Holford is very good. As I think I mentioned before, Ian Marber is ION qualified (Patrick's Institute)It would definately be of benefit to get the balance and read the more academic books too. I've seen Diet and Nutrition by Rudolph Ballentine and Essentials of Human Nutrition by Mann and Truswell recommended, but can't comment on them myself. Perhaps you could try searching on the websites where the courses are offered and see if they have a reading list? Is that why it's called the ? lol!
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Hi Azalia and Footsie.
Happy New year to you.
Re: PH.....On the second weekend of our first year he came in to give a lecture....well we all waited, breathes bated....on the edge of our seats.....and he came in, gave a lecture which was ok but nothing we didn't already know...the kind of thing he talks about when he does his "tours" on healthy eating and half way through started to put up slides of all his books, over and over again....at the end he said he would be signing his latest book outside.
Well, I did buy it (have all the rest anyway) but couldn't help feeling it was just a ploy to sell more books. Was a tad disappointed with the lecture and after speaking to a lot of the other students they all said the same thing which wasa great shame as he is obviously well versed in nutrition but kinda felt he had lost his way in the commercialism of it all.
Still, ION wouldn't be where it is without him, so I suppose he can afford to be where he is these days.
Patchouli
I am not sure how to find a course that will fit the bill. Has anyone done one that has proved useful? If so, what was it.
Seasons greeting to you all. [sm=xmas-smiley-043.gif]
Love,
Footsie X
Answers:
Hi Footsie,
What level course are you looking for- in other words exactly how would you like to utilise the qualification that you'd gain? I ask because there's a great deal of difference (in the law) between dispensing nutritional advice and guidance and doing a course with the aim of improving your knowledge so you can get a more holistic sense of their health and possibly make the odd suggestion to them.
If you are looking for a qualification in nutrition to use alongside your reflexology (and therefore be qualified to offer guidance) you need a qualification in nutritional therapy. See the British Association of Nutritional Therapists for more details>
If you run a search in the Student and Training Forum you should find previous discussions in which qualifications such as the ITEC diploma in nutrition and various other colleges and quals are discussed.
Good luck!
Answers:
Hi Azalia,
Many thanks for your reply. I am not sure what I am looking for yet, or how deep I want to go! I am at the exploring stage.
The 'doing a course with the aim of improvingmy knowledge so I can get a more holistic sense of their health and possibly make the odd suggestion to them' is basically what I had in mind, but if I found somethingwith greater depthand of interest to me, I would consider doing that.
By posting here, I was casting my net to see what paths other reflexologists had found to be of good, constructive, use to them.
Footsie X
Answers:
Hi again Footsie [sm=wave.gif]
..Sounds a good place to be! Maybe these links will help...
(VTCT do a similar qualification Level 3 Diploma in Non-Medical Nutritional Advice (D1055)- see the description taken from their site, *here*
There have been several other discussions on which courses andrecommendable collegesto which I've written replies...but unfortunately have lost track of them. If you're at the gathering info stage, I'd check out all the colleges- Plaskett (website currently being re-designed/relocated)Institute of Optimum Nutrition (of Patrick Holford fame) College of Nutrition and Natural Therapy, the Nutritional Healing Foundation...etc. There's more links to be found on this useful page from the Nutritional Therapy Council
Other than the above kind of courses, have you considered things like naturopathy and kinesiology, in which nutrition plays a part. Kinesiology is particularly interesting actually, and would tie in with the reflex quite nicely..like a natural progression. There's also oriental medicine to consider. See *here* for LCTA's PGdip and MSc in nutrition for healthcare practioners.
There's loads to look up, places to contact and brochures to request, but hopefully that should give you some sort of starting point!
Always a good idea;)From my own experience I haven't ever met a reflexologist that has gone into nutrition and used that alongside their professionalpractice...but I'm sure there must be some about. I do know a reflexologist whowent onto kinesiology and then molecular biology though!!
With a bit of luck a fellow reflexologist will come along and share!:D
Best wishes,
Azalia.
Answers:
Hi Azalia,
Well, that reply constitutes a Christmas gift. Many. many thanks for such an in depth repy.
No, I hadn't considered naturopathyor kinesiology, or even thought past the possibility of nutrition, but it is a very interesting thought and one that I will explore fully.
Thank you again.
Have a lovely day.
[sm=smilie_schneekugel2.gif]
Footsie X
Answers:
Hi Footsie and Azalia
Just a quick message to let you know that I practice reflexology (as well as other therapies) and am doing the Diploma in Nutrition at PH's Institute for Optimum Nutrition. It is accredited by the University of Bedfordshire but tuition is in Central London.
If you don't have chemistry, biology or A&P you will have to do their science access course but they will exempt you from the ones you do have, i.e I didn't have to do A&P, but did have to do the other two. The "modules" for the science access course aren't cheap, approx £500-£600 each and then the course itself is costing approx £3000 a year, not including travel and accomodation if needed (I am in Scotland, so costing a fortune)
The course is pretty heavy going with lectures from 10am till 5.30pm on a Sat and Sun once a month but you also have a seminar night (3 hours once a month) and the volume of work to do at home is a struggle (I am finding, but also started up own business, so it all compounds on it)
I am not doing the Dip in Nut to "complement" the existing therapies I do but to eventually expand in the field of nutrition and make this my main occupation as getting to old to do full body massages all day!!
The thing about doing some of the other nutrition courses is them being accredited. I could have gone for some "smaller" courses in Scotland but none were Bant registered which is why I have to travel.
Love
Patchouli
Answers:
Hi Patchouli,
Thank you for your reply. All of this is helping me tremendously.
I have a case study, who I am treating for fertility. She has just been to see a nutritionist, and has shared the experience and report with me. It was excellent and very helpful for both of us. The nutritionist studied with the Institute for Optimum Nutrition too. So Patchoulihang on in there, you are on a good course.
Have a peaceful day.
Love,[sm=xmas-smiley-010.gif]Footsie X
Answers:
No doubt all this is keeping you occupied throughout your Christmas Holiday:D
No worries! I've been there and done quite a bit of research myself, having consideredDietetics as a degree at University. The qualification Patchouliis doing is at the same level BTW, as both require the Science Access course or the Biology + ChemistryA levels.
Footsie, do you own any of Ian Marber's books (The "Food Doctor" series)? If you don't then I'd recommend at least having a brief look at them because a) there's some great recipes in there and b) the basics of good nutrition are all explained really simply, andbeing IONqualified Mr Marber might give you some inspiration. Just a thought.
Hopefully you'll get some other replies from members who might be able to share some useful stuff with you, and in the meantime, happy searching!
Azalia x
Answers:
Hi Azalia,
Yep! Christmas was sorted!! I've been exploring your links and got lots of leads. Still undecided about where I'm heading though.
Now then Ian Marber; I haven't heard of him before, but Amazon has......... which book should I buy, my finger is poised over the 'buy now with one click button'. I'm tempted to buy healing foods for mind and body. Before I commit, is there a better choice I could have made?
[sm=smillie_sylvester.gif]Footsie X
Answers:
Have you parted with your money yet, or are you 'sleeping on it'? If you have, then by the looks of it, and reading the reviews, then healing foods for mind and body looks like a good choice. I haven't ever read that one, and whilst I certainly wouldn't discount it, I wonder whether the Food Doctor Diet books would be interesting, regarding his approach. It seems like you can get a good idea of the way that he practices through those books, which might be interesting. I didn't want to recommend parting with cash necessarily, because while they are good books, they might not teach you anything new. (His principles are based around the complex carbs + small amounts of protein at every meal, the 80:20 rule etc..)I'd recommend getting The Food Doctor Diet or the Food Doctor Everyday Dietout of the library. (You can look up the books your library has on the online catologue if you have a library card and request books if they don't have them, see your local council's website for details.)
Answers:
No, my finger was still poised!
Boy am I learning here. I have just explored my council website, located the library catalogue, and find that the Food Doctor Diet is there, and in stock. I will go and see about borrowing it next week.
Thank you Azalia
Love,
Footsie X
Answers:
Hi Footsie
I would also recommend anything by Patrick Holford and there are also two books that are essential reading on the ION course...."Health Defence" by Dr Paul Clayton and "Nutrition, A Health promotion approach"
These are still easy to follow but are more academic than commercial, if you know what I mean.
You may be able to get these at the library too, you will definitely be able to get most of PH's books as I would guess he is "God" to most in the nutrition field!!
Love
Patchouli
Answers:
Yup- Patrick Holford is very good. As I think I mentioned before, Ian Marber is ION qualified (Patrick's Institute)It would definately be of benefit to get the balance and read the more academic books too. I've seen Diet and Nutrition by Rudolph Ballentine and Essentials of Human Nutrition by Mann and Truswell recommended, but can't comment on them myself. Perhaps you could try searching on the websites where the courses are offered and see if they have a reading list? Is that why it's called the ? lol!
Answers:
Hi Azalia and Footsie.
Happy New year to you.
Re: PH.....On the second weekend of our first year he came in to give a lecture....well we all waited, breathes bated....on the edge of our seats.....and he came in, gave a lecture which was ok but nothing we didn't already know...the kind of thing he talks about when he does his "tours" on healthy eating and half way through started to put up slides of all his books, over and over again....at the end he said he would be signing his latest book outside.
Well, I did buy it (have all the rest anyway) but couldn't help feeling it was just a ploy to sell more books. Was a tad disappointed with the lecture and after speaking to a lot of the other students they all said the same thing which wasa great shame as he is obviously well versed in nutrition but kinda felt he had lost his way in the commercialism of it all.
Still, ION wouldn't be where it is without him, so I suppose he can afford to be where he is these days.
Patchouli