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Hello
You may have answered my posts re Cognative Therapy. I have been told by my doctor that I would need to be refered to the mental health team inorder to access this therapy via the NHS. I have also been told that if I do this, because I have children, social services will be made aware of my request for this kind of therapy. Now I do not have anything to hide, on the contraray, it is my children that have given me a reason to get up of a morning, but with the amount of mis diagnosis in the media at the moment regarding munchousens ( unsure of the spelling but I think you will understand!) syndrome, and the extra stress of thinking I am being scrutinised, I dont know if I could go down this route, but feel this therapy would be benifical to me, how do I do it without paying a fortune, I have discoverd it would cost me £50 per hour to go private and I just cant afford that kind of money, what is the answer?
Answers:
Dear Donna
There are always other ways it depends on the root causes of the core issues.
You can email me if you wish I will do my best to advise you but I would need to know a little about your case history. You may also wish to view my website.
I truly understand if it was not for my son when he was a child I would not be here now on planet earth.
GOD speed you with your healing journey.
being love
kim xx
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[sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]Hi Donna, go for cbt. Last year i could not go into shops,or out with friends. Ifelt like the above smiley. I am getting through it and can now go out and about. I also have children. It is better to seek help and support. Everyone needs a little support sometimes, Good luck Gail
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Thank you Gail,
As you probably know the slightest thing can flip you out when you dont seem to think straight! When the doc said mental health team My brain ran off with thoughts of being sectioned and the kids being taken off me because I am I complete nutter!
Upon a little bit of rational reflection I am almost positive that wouldnt happen! lol
Any way thank you for your positive words, and hope all is well in your world!
Take care
Answers:
Dear Hopefull
further to email
this is a great affirmation try to say it daily or whenever you feel down, I haven't read this book but I am sure that it is wonderful.
CALL FOR SELF-LOVE TO THE CREATOR
A Call for Self-Love
To the Creator
Today, I ask that You help me accept myself just the way I am, without judgment.
Help me accept my mind the way it is, with all my emotions, hopes and dreams, my personality,
my unique way of being.Help me accept my body just the way it is, with all its beauty and perfection.
Let the love I have for myself be so strong that I never again reject myself or sabotage my happiness, freedom and love. From now on, let every action, every reaction, every thought, every emotion,
be based on love.
Help me increase my self-love until my life is transformed, from fear and drama to love and joy.
Let the power of my self-love be strong enough to break all the lies I was programmed to believe -
all the lies that told me I wasn't good enough, or strong enough,
or beautiful enough, or intelligent enough.
Let the power of my self-love be so strong that I no longer need to live my life according to other
people's opinions. Let me trust myself completely to make the choices I must make.
Whatever I want to accomplish, let it be done with the power of my self-love.
Starting today, help me love myself so much that I never set up any circumstances that go against me.
I can live my life being myself, and not pretending to be someone else just to be accepted by
other people. I no longer need other people to accept me or tell me how good I am because I know who I am.
With the power of my self-love, let me enjoy what I see every time I look in the mirror.
Let there be a big smile on my face that enhances my inner and outer beauty.
Help me feel such intense self-love that I always enjoy my own presence.
Let me love myself without judgment, because when I judge, I carry blame
and guilt and have the need for punishment, and I lose the perspective of Love.
Strengthen my will to forgive myself in this moment.
Clean my mind of emotional poison and self-judgment, so I can live in complete peace and love.
Let my self-love be the power that changes my life.
With this new power in my heart, the power of self-love, let me transform every relationship I have,
beginning with the relationship I have with myself. Help me be free of any conflict with others.
Let me be happy to share my time with my loved ones and to forgive them for any
injustice I feel in my mind.
Help me to love myself so much that I forgive anyone who has ever hurt
me in my life. Help me create new channels of communication in my relationships so
there is no war of control, there is no winner or loser. Let me work in my relationships as a team for love, for joy, for harmony. Let my relationships with my family and friends be based on respect and
joy so I no longer have the need to tell them how to think or how to be.
Let my romantic relationship be the most wonderful relationship.
Let me feel joy every time I share myself with my partner.
Help me accept others just the way they are, without judgment, because
when I reject them, I reject myself.
Today is a new beginning.
Help me start my life over beginning today with the power of self-love.
Help me enjoy my life, enjoy my relationships, to explore life, take
risks, to be alive, and to no longer live in fear of love.
Let me open my heart to the love that is my birthright.
Help me become a Master of Gratitude, Generosity and Love.
By Don Miguel Ruiz, Mastery of Love
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Dear Sacredstar
If its ok I would like to print this off so I can keep it near when I need it.
Its so so lovely.
Thank you
Take Care
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Dear Donna
yes please do
say it with conviction and it can turn your life around
You can also add
TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF MY LIFE
I AM A STAR !
much love
Kim xx
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Dearest Kim,
I have taken the great liberty of re-formatting your beautiful quote. You know what a softy I am, so you can imagine the effect. Bless you and Don Miguel Ruiz:
To the Creator
Today, I ask that You help me accept myself just the way I am, without judgment.
Help me accept my mind the way it is, with all my emotions, hopes and dreams, my personality, my unique way of being.
Help me accept my body just the way it is, with all its beauty and perfection.
Let the love I have for myself be so strong that I never again reject myself or sabotage my happiness, freedom and love.
From now on, let every action, every reaction, every thought, every emotion,
be based on love.
Help me increase my self-love until my life is transformed, from fear and drama to love and joy.
Let the power of my self-love be strong enough to break all the lies I was programmed to believe - all the lies that told me I wasn't good enough, or strong enough,
or beautiful enough, or intelligent enough.
Let the power of my self-love be so strong that I no longer need to live my life according to other people's opinions.
Let me trust myself completely to make the choices I must make.
Whatever I want to accomplish, let it be done with the power of my self-love.
Starting today, help me love myself so much that I never set up any circumstances that go against me.
I can live my life being myself, and not pretending to be someone else just to be accepted by
other people.
I no longer need other people to accept me or tell me how good I am because I know who I am.
With the power of my self-love, let me enjoy what I see every time I look in the mirror.
Let there be a big smile on my face that enhances my inner and outer beauty.
Help me feel such intense self-love that I always enjoy my own presence.
Let me love myself without judgment, because when I judge, I carry blame
and guilt and have the need for punishment, and I lose the perspective of Love.
Strengthen my will to forgive myself in this moment.
Clean my mind of emotional poison and self-judgment, so I can live in complete peace and love.
Let my self-love be the power that changes my life.
With this new power in my heart, the power of self-love, let me transform every relationship I have, beginning with the relationship I have with myself. Help me be free of any conflict with others.
Let me be happy to share my time with my loved ones and to forgive them for any
injustice I feel in my mind.
Help me to love myself so much that I forgive anyone who has ever hurt
me in my life.
Help me create new channels of communication in my relationships so
there is no war of control, there is no winner or loser.
Let me work in my relationships as a team for love, for joy, for harmony.
Let my relationships with my family and friends be based on respect and
joy so I no longer have the need to tell them how to think or how to be.
Let my romantic relationship be the most wonderful relationship.
Let me feel joy every time I share myself with my partner.
Help me accept others just the way they are, without judgment, because
when I reject them, I reject myself.
Today is a new beginning.
Help me start my life over beginning today with the power of self-love.
Help me enjoy my life, enjoy my relationships, to explore life, take risks, to be alive, and to no longer live in fear of love.
Let me open my heart to the love that is my birthright.
Help me become a Master of Gratitude, Generosity and Love.
By Don Miguel Ruiz, Mastery of Love
Answers:
Dear Leo
you are indeed a STAR
thank you
being love
kim xx
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What beautiful words, thank you for sharing them with us Kim. They brought some tears to my eyes.
Love and light
Rosi X
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Dear Hopefull,
I am only getting a taster of what you must be going through and I can only try to imagine the anguish that you must be feeling regarding your children.
I must say that you sound " all there" to me and a very caring and thoughtful individual, not to mention mother.
You must bear in mind that some people who are referred for mental health evaluation by their GP are in a desperate and awful state and their children have been suffering dreadfully without the knowledge of anybody else. This is where social services come in, once they see that your children are having a "normal" life........being fed, sent to school etc they will leave you to continue your usual family life.
Its just routine. I have friends (married couple) She is the Mental Health proffesional and he is the Social worker, so I have a good idea of how both systems work.
Very best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do
Love from
Honeybee[sm=sandrine.gif]
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Dear honeybee
Thank you for the kind reply!
Part of my depression is irrational thinking, which tends to happen late at night when I didnt have anyone to point out how irrational I was being, that was before I found HP;)
I have discovered soooo much from many knowledgable here on these forums, it has helped me immensly.
I have to sections of my life now, first section I like to call pre find HP, I was stuck in a cycle of negative thinking, an inability to sleep, which led to disorderd thoughts, anxiety and panic attacks.
Second section I call post finding HP I am on the road to wellness:D
Although I am taking medication, and undergoing counseling, I have a found an out let for my fears, here on HP, and it has helped to express them, and get back positive feedback. HP has allowed me to remember the person I used to be, and made me realise I am valueable, and needed, and worth it!
I still have dark moments, and sometimes my thoughts are jumbled, and I do ramble alot of the time[&:] it isnt half as bad as my pre find HP life:)
I have been give the power, and the knowlegde to heal myself and I am dam well going to do it , for me, my family, and for all of you who have faith in me here at HP:D
Thank you all!
And on a lighter note Honeybee........... That is one mighty tight asss:D:D:D:D:D:D
Said in a none sexual kinda way!
Is it a representation of your own? said in a jealous kinda way!;)
Take Care
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Dear Donna
Great news!
here is a good one for 'BEING'
don't think about anything that happened before an hour ago and thing nothing about the future, just be in the present moment.
The past is gone, the future is an illusion, the present is a gift to you.
being love
kim xx
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Hi Donna
From my experience of Social Services (and I work in Education Welfare so I deal with them quite a lot) you are more likely to receive their SUPPORT if you are attending counselling. They will respect the fact that you are acknowledging that you need a bit of help and you are certainly not alone in this respect. You would have to do something REALLY bad for them to even consider taking your children away! Believe me there are parents out there that don't deserve the right to bring up their children because they treat them terribly, but even then social services hands are very tied by the legalities.
There is, quite rightly, no stigma attached to depression/inability to cope these days. So many people are feeling negative and it's no wonder with all the violence and horror we are bombarded with via the media every day. :(
I loved Kim and Leo's contributions :) and following along the same lines I think you might benefit from EFT. It feels daft but seems to work and it won't cost you anything if you do it yourself at home. Every time you feel a bit under par you can just do a few taps and you'll feel better (even if it's only because you are laughing at yourself doing it!). ;)
As the Reiki guys say "Just for today I will not worry"
Love & hugs
Sweetheart x
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Dear Hopeful,
I wasn't being kind, just honest. You know you dont sound very different at all to must busy mums who have 101 things on the go at a time. We all have irrational thoughts from time to time but I suppose its a case of how you look at it. Some people could regard it as a problem and worry about it were as i'm the type to laugh at myself( I am know to be a bit ditzy from time to time) and tell myself I will be tip top again after a good nights sleep or a night out or a good massage. I always find a solution that will make everything ok. I always manage to have a positive outlook no matter what is occuring, don't know how I do it, but its there and thank goodness for that.
I only wish it were easy to share what I have as I would dearly love to send you as much as you need right now.
All the same I reckon you will get there of your own accord soon enough.
Lots of love
Honeybee[sm=sandrine.gif]
p.s. You are not the only one to comment on my new ass, glad you like it.
Mine in real life..........well......not quite that firm and I dont have any tattoos.
Answers:
Hi Donna,
Recent publicity about social services and Munchausens has stopped a lot of people from seeking help in similar situations. It is really sad because they deprive themselves from the support they need and deserve.
On the other hand, from experience I know that an NHS referral for cbt can take months, so by the time you get there you may feel you don't need it anyway. You have a good insight to your problems, counselling and probably other informal support as well.
One more way to get help could be the independant mental health organisation: Mind. They have local branches, activities, support goups, etc
Apart from talking therapies, hands-on therapies eg. massage, aromatherapy can make a big difference to heal mind, body and soul.
A
You may have answered my posts re Cognative Therapy. I have been told by my doctor that I would need to be refered to the mental health team inorder to access this therapy via the NHS. I have also been told that if I do this, because I have children, social services will be made aware of my request for this kind of therapy. Now I do not have anything to hide, on the contraray, it is my children that have given me a reason to get up of a morning, but with the amount of mis diagnosis in the media at the moment regarding munchousens ( unsure of the spelling but I think you will understand!) syndrome, and the extra stress of thinking I am being scrutinised, I dont know if I could go down this route, but feel this therapy would be benifical to me, how do I do it without paying a fortune, I have discoverd it would cost me £50 per hour to go private and I just cant afford that kind of money, what is the answer?
Answers:
Dear Donna
There are always other ways it depends on the root causes of the core issues.
You can email me if you wish I will do my best to advise you but I would need to know a little about your case history. You may also wish to view my website.
I truly understand if it was not for my son when he was a child I would not be here now on planet earth.
GOD speed you with your healing journey.
being love
kim xx
Answers:
[sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]Hi Donna, go for cbt. Last year i could not go into shops,or out with friends. Ifelt like the above smiley. I am getting through it and can now go out and about. I also have children. It is better to seek help and support. Everyone needs a little support sometimes, Good luck Gail
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Thank you Gail,
As you probably know the slightest thing can flip you out when you dont seem to think straight! When the doc said mental health team My brain ran off with thoughts of being sectioned and the kids being taken off me because I am I complete nutter!
Upon a little bit of rational reflection I am almost positive that wouldnt happen! lol
Any way thank you for your positive words, and hope all is well in your world!
Take care
Answers:
Dear Hopefull
further to email
this is a great affirmation try to say it daily or whenever you feel down, I haven't read this book but I am sure that it is wonderful.
CALL FOR SELF-LOVE TO THE CREATOR
A Call for Self-Love
To the Creator
Today, I ask that You help me accept myself just the way I am, without judgment.
Help me accept my mind the way it is, with all my emotions, hopes and dreams, my personality,
my unique way of being.Help me accept my body just the way it is, with all its beauty and perfection.
Let the love I have for myself be so strong that I never again reject myself or sabotage my happiness, freedom and love. From now on, let every action, every reaction, every thought, every emotion,
be based on love.
Help me increase my self-love until my life is transformed, from fear and drama to love and joy.
Let the power of my self-love be strong enough to break all the lies I was programmed to believe -
all the lies that told me I wasn't good enough, or strong enough,
or beautiful enough, or intelligent enough.
Let the power of my self-love be so strong that I no longer need to live my life according to other
people's opinions. Let me trust myself completely to make the choices I must make.
Whatever I want to accomplish, let it be done with the power of my self-love.
Starting today, help me love myself so much that I never set up any circumstances that go against me.
I can live my life being myself, and not pretending to be someone else just to be accepted by
other people. I no longer need other people to accept me or tell me how good I am because I know who I am.
With the power of my self-love, let me enjoy what I see every time I look in the mirror.
Let there be a big smile on my face that enhances my inner and outer beauty.
Help me feel such intense self-love that I always enjoy my own presence.
Let me love myself without judgment, because when I judge, I carry blame
and guilt and have the need for punishment, and I lose the perspective of Love.
Strengthen my will to forgive myself in this moment.
Clean my mind of emotional poison and self-judgment, so I can live in complete peace and love.
Let my self-love be the power that changes my life.
With this new power in my heart, the power of self-love, let me transform every relationship I have,
beginning with the relationship I have with myself. Help me be free of any conflict with others.
Let me be happy to share my time with my loved ones and to forgive them for any
injustice I feel in my mind.
Help me to love myself so much that I forgive anyone who has ever hurt
me in my life. Help me create new channels of communication in my relationships so
there is no war of control, there is no winner or loser. Let me work in my relationships as a team for love, for joy, for harmony. Let my relationships with my family and friends be based on respect and
joy so I no longer have the need to tell them how to think or how to be.
Let my romantic relationship be the most wonderful relationship.
Let me feel joy every time I share myself with my partner.
Help me accept others just the way they are, without judgment, because
when I reject them, I reject myself.
Today is a new beginning.
Help me start my life over beginning today with the power of self-love.
Help me enjoy my life, enjoy my relationships, to explore life, take
risks, to be alive, and to no longer live in fear of love.
Let me open my heart to the love that is my birthright.
Help me become a Master of Gratitude, Generosity and Love.
By Don Miguel Ruiz, Mastery of Love
Answers:
Dear Sacredstar
If its ok I would like to print this off so I can keep it near when I need it.
Its so so lovely.
Thank you
Take Care
Answers:
Dear Donna
yes please do
say it with conviction and it can turn your life around
You can also add
TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF MY LIFE
I AM A STAR !
much love
Kim xx
Answers:
Dearest Kim,
I have taken the great liberty of re-formatting your beautiful quote. You know what a softy I am, so you can imagine the effect. Bless you and Don Miguel Ruiz:
To the Creator
Today, I ask that You help me accept myself just the way I am, without judgment.
Help me accept my mind the way it is, with all my emotions, hopes and dreams, my personality, my unique way of being.
Help me accept my body just the way it is, with all its beauty and perfection.
Let the love I have for myself be so strong that I never again reject myself or sabotage my happiness, freedom and love.
From now on, let every action, every reaction, every thought, every emotion,
be based on love.
Help me increase my self-love until my life is transformed, from fear and drama to love and joy.
Let the power of my self-love be strong enough to break all the lies I was programmed to believe - all the lies that told me I wasn't good enough, or strong enough,
or beautiful enough, or intelligent enough.
Let the power of my self-love be so strong that I no longer need to live my life according to other people's opinions.
Let me trust myself completely to make the choices I must make.
Whatever I want to accomplish, let it be done with the power of my self-love.
Starting today, help me love myself so much that I never set up any circumstances that go against me.
I can live my life being myself, and not pretending to be someone else just to be accepted by
other people.
I no longer need other people to accept me or tell me how good I am because I know who I am.
With the power of my self-love, let me enjoy what I see every time I look in the mirror.
Let there be a big smile on my face that enhances my inner and outer beauty.
Help me feel such intense self-love that I always enjoy my own presence.
Let me love myself without judgment, because when I judge, I carry blame
and guilt and have the need for punishment, and I lose the perspective of Love.
Strengthen my will to forgive myself in this moment.
Clean my mind of emotional poison and self-judgment, so I can live in complete peace and love.
Let my self-love be the power that changes my life.
With this new power in my heart, the power of self-love, let me transform every relationship I have, beginning with the relationship I have with myself. Help me be free of any conflict with others.
Let me be happy to share my time with my loved ones and to forgive them for any
injustice I feel in my mind.
Help me to love myself so much that I forgive anyone who has ever hurt
me in my life.
Help me create new channels of communication in my relationships so
there is no war of control, there is no winner or loser.
Let me work in my relationships as a team for love, for joy, for harmony.
Let my relationships with my family and friends be based on respect and
joy so I no longer have the need to tell them how to think or how to be.
Let my romantic relationship be the most wonderful relationship.
Let me feel joy every time I share myself with my partner.
Help me accept others just the way they are, without judgment, because
when I reject them, I reject myself.
Today is a new beginning.
Help me start my life over beginning today with the power of self-love.
Help me enjoy my life, enjoy my relationships, to explore life, take risks, to be alive, and to no longer live in fear of love.
Let me open my heart to the love that is my birthright.
Help me become a Master of Gratitude, Generosity and Love.
By Don Miguel Ruiz, Mastery of Love
Answers:
Dear Leo
you are indeed a STAR
thank you
being love
kim xx
Answers:
What beautiful words, thank you for sharing them with us Kim. They brought some tears to my eyes.
Love and light
Rosi X
Answers:
Dear Hopefull,
I am only getting a taster of what you must be going through and I can only try to imagine the anguish that you must be feeling regarding your children.
I must say that you sound " all there" to me and a very caring and thoughtful individual, not to mention mother.
You must bear in mind that some people who are referred for mental health evaluation by their GP are in a desperate and awful state and their children have been suffering dreadfully without the knowledge of anybody else. This is where social services come in, once they see that your children are having a "normal" life........being fed, sent to school etc they will leave you to continue your usual family life.
Its just routine. I have friends (married couple) She is the Mental Health proffesional and he is the Social worker, so I have a good idea of how both systems work.
Very best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do
Love from
Honeybee[sm=sandrine.gif]
Answers:
Dear honeybee
Thank you for the kind reply!
Part of my depression is irrational thinking, which tends to happen late at night when I didnt have anyone to point out how irrational I was being, that was before I found HP;)
I have discovered soooo much from many knowledgable here on these forums, it has helped me immensly.
I have to sections of my life now, first section I like to call pre find HP, I was stuck in a cycle of negative thinking, an inability to sleep, which led to disorderd thoughts, anxiety and panic attacks.
Second section I call post finding HP I am on the road to wellness:D
Although I am taking medication, and undergoing counseling, I have a found an out let for my fears, here on HP, and it has helped to express them, and get back positive feedback. HP has allowed me to remember the person I used to be, and made me realise I am valueable, and needed, and worth it!
I still have dark moments, and sometimes my thoughts are jumbled, and I do ramble alot of the time[&:] it isnt half as bad as my pre find HP life:)
I have been give the power, and the knowlegde to heal myself and I am dam well going to do it , for me, my family, and for all of you who have faith in me here at HP:D
Thank you all!
And on a lighter note Honeybee........... That is one mighty tight asss:D:D:D:D:D:D
Said in a none sexual kinda way!
Is it a representation of your own? said in a jealous kinda way!;)
Take Care
Answers:
Dear Donna
Great news!
here is a good one for 'BEING'
don't think about anything that happened before an hour ago and thing nothing about the future, just be in the present moment.
The past is gone, the future is an illusion, the present is a gift to you.
being love
kim xx
Answers:
Hi Donna
From my experience of Social Services (and I work in Education Welfare so I deal with them quite a lot) you are more likely to receive their SUPPORT if you are attending counselling. They will respect the fact that you are acknowledging that you need a bit of help and you are certainly not alone in this respect. You would have to do something REALLY bad for them to even consider taking your children away! Believe me there are parents out there that don't deserve the right to bring up their children because they treat them terribly, but even then social services hands are very tied by the legalities.
There is, quite rightly, no stigma attached to depression/inability to cope these days. So many people are feeling negative and it's no wonder with all the violence and horror we are bombarded with via the media every day. :(
I loved Kim and Leo's contributions :) and following along the same lines I think you might benefit from EFT. It feels daft but seems to work and it won't cost you anything if you do it yourself at home. Every time you feel a bit under par you can just do a few taps and you'll feel better (even if it's only because you are laughing at yourself doing it!). ;)
As the Reiki guys say "Just for today I will not worry"
Love & hugs
Sweetheart x
Answers:
Dear Hopeful,
I wasn't being kind, just honest. You know you dont sound very different at all to must busy mums who have 101 things on the go at a time. We all have irrational thoughts from time to time but I suppose its a case of how you look at it. Some people could regard it as a problem and worry about it were as i'm the type to laugh at myself( I am know to be a bit ditzy from time to time) and tell myself I will be tip top again after a good nights sleep or a night out or a good massage. I always find a solution that will make everything ok. I always manage to have a positive outlook no matter what is occuring, don't know how I do it, but its there and thank goodness for that.
I only wish it were easy to share what I have as I would dearly love to send you as much as you need right now.
All the same I reckon you will get there of your own accord soon enough.
Lots of love
Honeybee[sm=sandrine.gif]
p.s. You are not the only one to comment on my new ass, glad you like it.
Mine in real life..........well......not quite that firm and I dont have any tattoos.
Answers:
Hi Donna,
Recent publicity about social services and Munchausens has stopped a lot of people from seeking help in similar situations. It is really sad because they deprive themselves from the support they need and deserve.
On the other hand, from experience I know that an NHS referral for cbt can take months, so by the time you get there you may feel you don't need it anyway. You have a good insight to your problems, counselling and probably other informal support as well.
One more way to get help could be the independant mental health organisation: Mind. They have local branches, activities, support goups, etc
Apart from talking therapies, hands-on therapies eg. massage, aromatherapy can make a big difference to heal mind, body and soul.
A