ITEC Diploma in Reiki
i know we have discussed this briefly before, but i was looking for something else on the ITEC site and found the syllabus details for the Reiki diploma.
http://www.itecworld.co.uk/complementary/?k=108
jeezzz... its got to be the biggest con/ rubbish i've seen!! most of it is to do with the usual ITEC stuff... i.e. A & P, professional conduct, biz awareness... hmmm ok, just writing that, i am going to assume that people doing reiki wont have done other bodywork courses - but if they have, i'd be right miffed doing all that again (as is the case with hot stones etc).
what it doesnt seem to say (or i missed it) is whether you get attuned and to what level (not 3, it does say that)
(edited cos i just read it - it attunes you to master level but not master teacher level - u-oh, i disagree with it already then!!)
will the deliverer be a reiki 3 and trained teacher in FE?
:032: (oh! wheres the scratching chin smiley? looked more intelectual!)
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Graham Hmmm - wouldnt one be better finding a Reiki Master/Teacher in their area and going to them for training and attunements? The course looks to be somewhat 'clinical'. It will be interesting to see what others post here.
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Energylz There's nothing wrong with having a 'clinical' approach to Reiki; after all it is a professional way of treating conditions and not really the fluffy way that some people perceive it (or teach it for that matter).
Having some standards of the way Reiki is taught is good, but stipulating some of the things/requirements in the course can be a little too much IMHO.
I also think a person would be better to find a Reiki Master who teaches Reiki to a suitable standard who they get on with and who they will get ongoing support from. I'm not sure I'd be happy getting my Reiki training and attunements in a piecemeal fashion on a college course run over X amount of weeks. A more concentrated course provides better knowledge and teaching if you ask me.
Also, not sure about the course teaching to level 3 like that. That is something that people should learn once they have had sufficient experience and worked with the energy for a while.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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LavenderRose I agree with what's been said - but know that teachers in other therapies have to be accredited before they can offer a certified course for insurance. At the moment, this doesn't happen to Reiki but it looks as if ITEC are working towards it.
I don't think that energy work can be "delivered" like this - it's more of a calling to Reiki or Reiki calling you (ask most people how they found Reiki and they will say it found them!) instead of you deciding you're going to "do" Reiki as with "hands-on" therapies (I only use the term to differentiate the two)
LR
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Reiki Pixie Since I taught ITEC Holistic Reiki over 2005/6 I feel qualified to comment on the subject.
It does cover Reiki stages 1, 2 and 3 (non-teachers/3a/ART) including all attunements.
It is taught by a trained Reiki Master Teacher with at least 2 years experience holding nationally recognised teaching qualification, i.e. C&G7407, Cert.Ed, NVQ assessor etc.
As for the comment about piecemeal learning at college, there is nothing more piecemeal than 1 or 2 day course per level as most Reiki is taught at the moment!!!! Over the 8 years of teaching Reiki I am amazed how many people with Reiki 1 have come to me to be retrained. A 1 day workshop with an attunement and badly photocopied double-sided sheet with hand positions is not going to generate much confidence for a student.
The benefits of studying a 100 hour training course is that you can go deeper into the subject than you can with a weekend workshop. As a tutor I can check progress and guide students on their Reiki journey. All students are interviewed before the course starts. I wouldn't take on a student if reiki is not right for them. I did turn one student down and she got a refund.
Most of my ITEC students who had done the usual Reiki format went on this course to further their studies. They all thanked me at the end of the course in getting the balance right between the mystical and the therapeutic aspects of Reiki. Because it was a 100 hour course, subjects like listening skills, chakras, TCM meridians, meditation, dowsing, client care, indepth understanding of the Usui Reiki symbols etc, could be looked at a far greater level than achieviable on a couple of weekend workshops.
I do realise that the syllabus isn't perfect and the contraindication list laughable, but the course format enables students to become confident and professional practitioners. Yes students have to have (or working towards) A&P and do the business/professional module (unit 22). If the student has A&P and unit 22 (or similiar) they will be APL'ed and don't have to do it.
This course is aimed at the professional end of complementary healthcare. You don't have to do it if you don't want to. ;)
There is room for professional and lay practice in this world, and I'm all for both!!!!
I'm deeply sorry for saying this but it has to be said: get your facts right, smell the coffee, open narrow mindedness, don't be so judgemental about college courses and the tutors that run them without attending them, and most importantly as Usui-Sensei says just for today don't worry.
Reiki Blessings to you all
Dave the Reiki Pixie
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ro§ie thanks for that, dave, i remember you saying earlier that you had taught ITEC reiki, and i think i may have asked then about the syllabus. anyway not to worry... i've seen it myself now ;)
you gotta love the reiki forum and its people for coming out with paragraphs like that!! i'd say to you as well, stop jumping up and down all excitedly, defending what you do!! i am an FE teacher myself (massage and reflexology) and indeed, did my reiki 1 & 2 at a college. i tend to agree actually... a term of 1 and a term of 2, i think, is a good way to go. hmmm... actually 18 hours teaching time each stage... but spread out over 9 weeks, we had lots of time to practise between lessons and feedback to the tutor, with lots of classroom practise too. i would imagine a one day workshop or even a weekend a little too rushed perhaps?
what annoys me about the ITEC courses are the repetitive elements... if you have done one course, you are quite aware of client care, professionalism etc etc... but i think the reiki course is open to anyone, provided they have A & P or are doing it in tandem. but if you say have done ITEC massage, much of this course will repeat what you already know. (its called money for old rope and how can we get funding).
i'm all for practitioners having knowledge of A & as it happens, and if you are going to practise, then yes, client care etc is also a must.
anyway... ooops... i must away... my class starts in 40 mins and i aint ready!!
:p
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Reiki Pixie Hi ya Rosie
I like a good debate. ;)
I was expecting lots of moaning at me this time. I have read lots of moaning by the Reiki community over the last couples of years about ITEC Reiki, like ITEC are taking over or something. All just fear and anxiety :(! I just wanted to put my view point across.
Unfortunately ITEC, VTCT (or is it VCTC) and other exam boards have repetitive elements. Not much I can personally do about it. Some of it is to do with NOS and QCA I get the impression. Of course it's also money for old robe.
Even though I'm a good little pixie, and always cover the syllabus of a course, I always take it a little further as students need the tools for the outside world and help in their personal and spiritual development. Creative imagination in the development of schemes of work and lesson plans can bring balance back into teaching Reiki.
Most of that group of Reiki students were complementary therapists of one kind or another, but they were happy to go over old material briefly and then straight into the real Reiki stuff. They all passed with good grades. There is plenty of flexablility in ITEC Reiki to not make it beaucratic or boring or sucking up to the "system".
To me spiritual and the material are like yin and yang, complementary opposites. I'm not interested in angels, spirit guides, ascended masters (what about descended masters?), channeling Dr. Usui or Tibetan monks or the ancients of Mu Mu. :rolleyes:
To me Reiki is a system of natural/energy/spiritual healing with Oriental roots, developed by a Japanese man with great compassion, who wishes to share it with other for the benefit of mankind. :)
If I am going to use a FE college to do this, what is wrong with that?(Comment to all Reiki people). ;)
A surgeon (for example) cutting a tumor out of a patient may be doing it with a spiritual insight. Isn't that spiritual healing? Spiritual healing is a state of mind. (Another comment to all Reiki people and pixies).
Going now myself to prepare for tomorrows IHM teaching.
Best Wishes
Reiki Pixie
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Energylz What about if a person only wishes to learn Reiki to level 2 practitioner level and doesn't wish to undertake master training? Master training is not something to be taken lightly and just having levels 1,2 and 3 all packaged into one course is, IMHO, no respecting Reiki teachings and the purpose of them.
I agree there are some Reiki courses that are taught poorly with the "have an attunement and a copy of the manual" approach, but there are also very good quality courses taught over weekend workshops with after course support.
The "piecemeal" comments relates to the way some of the college courses are taught (and this is no reflection on your own teaching Reiki Pixie as it sounds as though you do a good job). I know of several people who have experienced very poor teaching in Reiki through colleges. One lady in particular I was speaking to came to me asking for advice on more than one occasion. The first time she had only been doing the course for two weeks and, in this second week she had received her first attunement to Reiki and was feeling ill after it. I asked if she was doing self-healing and she said she didn't know what that was, but took out her course notes and saw that it was something covered in the 2 weeks later. Later on in the course she came to me again because she had had an experience where she had used one of the Reiki symbols against her son when he was being annoying and, in her words, she literally knocked him over with it. Again I asked what she had been taught in respect of this and she said that they had been shown the symbols and asked to learn them, but she didn't know what they were for or the purpose of them yet. IMHO, this was appalling teaching, being shown or given something in one week to be completed in a later week. With weekend workshops, all is covered in that concentrated period of learning and nobody leaves the course only half knowing things.
Unfortunely, and I've worked in education myself so I know this to be true, colleges and universities only care about, as they put it, "bums on seats" i.e. more students = more money. This, of course, is not a reflection of the individual teachers but rather the management structure of such places and their lack of care or even understanding about what they are offering. There is, IMO, a little too much of the attitude that if it's currently a big thing in the marketplace they should run a course on it. Very few of the colleges (not the teachers, but the colleges themselves) understand that Reiki is a personal journey for a person and can be life changing, and that it's not just about getting qualified to be a practitioner in a clinic to earn money.
The deepness of teaching comes from after course support, reiki shares etc. and there is no additional benefit of doing it via a college course IMO.
All college courses check with their students to ensure they feel they are on the right course and either refund or transfer to other courses where necessary. However, IMHO, Reiki is right for anyone wanting to learn it. Who are we to decide for that person.
That's good. That shows you are a good teacher.
There are so many things being taught on the ITEC that are not strictly Reiki. They are more general Holistic therapies or relate to other specific therapies. Chakras are not Reiki. Dowsing and Kinesiology (Muscle Testing) is not Reiki etc. etc. They are beneficial techniques and can be used alongside Reiki, but they are being taught on the ITEC course as if they are an integral part of Reiki. How many students come away from an ITEC Reiki course and actually know what parts of the course are Reiki and what are add-ons?
You imply that students on non ITEC courses are just lay practitioners and not professional. That, from my experience, is not that case and is very judgmental of all non ITEC practitioners.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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Energylz P.S. I have to laugh at ITEC's description for the course:
Is that all it qualifies you to do? 100 hours of training just for that?
;)
http://www.itecworld.co.uk/complementary/?k=108
jeezzz... its got to be the biggest con/ rubbish i've seen!! most of it is to do with the usual ITEC stuff... i.e. A & P, professional conduct, biz awareness... hmmm ok, just writing that, i am going to assume that people doing reiki wont have done other bodywork courses - but if they have, i'd be right miffed doing all that again (as is the case with hot stones etc).
what it doesnt seem to say (or i missed it) is whether you get attuned and to what level (not 3, it does say that)
(edited cos i just read it - it attunes you to master level but not master teacher level - u-oh, i disagree with it already then!!)
will the deliverer be a reiki 3 and trained teacher in FE?
:032: (oh! wheres the scratching chin smiley? looked more intelectual!)
Answers:
Graham Hmmm - wouldnt one be better finding a Reiki Master/Teacher in their area and going to them for training and attunements? The course looks to be somewhat 'clinical'. It will be interesting to see what others post here.
Answers:
Energylz There's nothing wrong with having a 'clinical' approach to Reiki; after all it is a professional way of treating conditions and not really the fluffy way that some people perceive it (or teach it for that matter).
Having some standards of the way Reiki is taught is good, but stipulating some of the things/requirements in the course can be a little too much IMHO.
I also think a person would be better to find a Reiki Master who teaches Reiki to a suitable standard who they get on with and who they will get ongoing support from. I'm not sure I'd be happy getting my Reiki training and attunements in a piecemeal fashion on a college course run over X amount of weeks. A more concentrated course provides better knowledge and teaching if you ask me.
Also, not sure about the course teaching to level 3 like that. That is something that people should learn once they have had sufficient experience and worked with the energy for a while.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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LavenderRose I agree with what's been said - but know that teachers in other therapies have to be accredited before they can offer a certified course for insurance. At the moment, this doesn't happen to Reiki but it looks as if ITEC are working towards it.
I don't think that energy work can be "delivered" like this - it's more of a calling to Reiki or Reiki calling you (ask most people how they found Reiki and they will say it found them!) instead of you deciding you're going to "do" Reiki as with "hands-on" therapies (I only use the term to differentiate the two)
LR
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Reiki Pixie Since I taught ITEC Holistic Reiki over 2005/6 I feel qualified to comment on the subject.
It does cover Reiki stages 1, 2 and 3 (non-teachers/3a/ART) including all attunements.
It is taught by a trained Reiki Master Teacher with at least 2 years experience holding nationally recognised teaching qualification, i.e. C&G7407, Cert.Ed, NVQ assessor etc.
As for the comment about piecemeal learning at college, there is nothing more piecemeal than 1 or 2 day course per level as most Reiki is taught at the moment!!!! Over the 8 years of teaching Reiki I am amazed how many people with Reiki 1 have come to me to be retrained. A 1 day workshop with an attunement and badly photocopied double-sided sheet with hand positions is not going to generate much confidence for a student.
The benefits of studying a 100 hour training course is that you can go deeper into the subject than you can with a weekend workshop. As a tutor I can check progress and guide students on their Reiki journey. All students are interviewed before the course starts. I wouldn't take on a student if reiki is not right for them. I did turn one student down and she got a refund.
Most of my ITEC students who had done the usual Reiki format went on this course to further their studies. They all thanked me at the end of the course in getting the balance right between the mystical and the therapeutic aspects of Reiki. Because it was a 100 hour course, subjects like listening skills, chakras, TCM meridians, meditation, dowsing, client care, indepth understanding of the Usui Reiki symbols etc, could be looked at a far greater level than achieviable on a couple of weekend workshops.
I do realise that the syllabus isn't perfect and the contraindication list laughable, but the course format enables students to become confident and professional practitioners. Yes students have to have (or working towards) A&P and do the business/professional module (unit 22). If the student has A&P and unit 22 (or similiar) they will be APL'ed and don't have to do it.
This course is aimed at the professional end of complementary healthcare. You don't have to do it if you don't want to. ;)
There is room for professional and lay practice in this world, and I'm all for both!!!!
I'm deeply sorry for saying this but it has to be said: get your facts right, smell the coffee, open narrow mindedness, don't be so judgemental about college courses and the tutors that run them without attending them, and most importantly as Usui-Sensei says just for today don't worry.
Reiki Blessings to you all
Dave the Reiki Pixie
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ro§ie thanks for that, dave, i remember you saying earlier that you had taught ITEC reiki, and i think i may have asked then about the syllabus. anyway not to worry... i've seen it myself now ;)
you gotta love the reiki forum and its people for coming out with paragraphs like that!! i'd say to you as well, stop jumping up and down all excitedly, defending what you do!! i am an FE teacher myself (massage and reflexology) and indeed, did my reiki 1 & 2 at a college. i tend to agree actually... a term of 1 and a term of 2, i think, is a good way to go. hmmm... actually 18 hours teaching time each stage... but spread out over 9 weeks, we had lots of time to practise between lessons and feedback to the tutor, with lots of classroom practise too. i would imagine a one day workshop or even a weekend a little too rushed perhaps?
what annoys me about the ITEC courses are the repetitive elements... if you have done one course, you are quite aware of client care, professionalism etc etc... but i think the reiki course is open to anyone, provided they have A & P or are doing it in tandem. but if you say have done ITEC massage, much of this course will repeat what you already know. (its called money for old rope and how can we get funding).
i'm all for practitioners having knowledge of A & as it happens, and if you are going to practise, then yes, client care etc is also a must.
anyway... ooops... i must away... my class starts in 40 mins and i aint ready!!
:p
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Reiki Pixie Hi ya Rosie
I like a good debate. ;)
I was expecting lots of moaning at me this time. I have read lots of moaning by the Reiki community over the last couples of years about ITEC Reiki, like ITEC are taking over or something. All just fear and anxiety :(! I just wanted to put my view point across.
Unfortunately ITEC, VTCT (or is it VCTC) and other exam boards have repetitive elements. Not much I can personally do about it. Some of it is to do with NOS and QCA I get the impression. Of course it's also money for old robe.
Even though I'm a good little pixie, and always cover the syllabus of a course, I always take it a little further as students need the tools for the outside world and help in their personal and spiritual development. Creative imagination in the development of schemes of work and lesson plans can bring balance back into teaching Reiki.
Most of that group of Reiki students were complementary therapists of one kind or another, but they were happy to go over old material briefly and then straight into the real Reiki stuff. They all passed with good grades. There is plenty of flexablility in ITEC Reiki to not make it beaucratic or boring or sucking up to the "system".
To me spiritual and the material are like yin and yang, complementary opposites. I'm not interested in angels, spirit guides, ascended masters (what about descended masters?), channeling Dr. Usui or Tibetan monks or the ancients of Mu Mu. :rolleyes:
To me Reiki is a system of natural/energy/spiritual healing with Oriental roots, developed by a Japanese man with great compassion, who wishes to share it with other for the benefit of mankind. :)
If I am going to use a FE college to do this, what is wrong with that?(Comment to all Reiki people). ;)
A surgeon (for example) cutting a tumor out of a patient may be doing it with a spiritual insight. Isn't that spiritual healing? Spiritual healing is a state of mind. (Another comment to all Reiki people and pixies).
Going now myself to prepare for tomorrows IHM teaching.
Best Wishes
Reiki Pixie
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Energylz What about if a person only wishes to learn Reiki to level 2 practitioner level and doesn't wish to undertake master training? Master training is not something to be taken lightly and just having levels 1,2 and 3 all packaged into one course is, IMHO, no respecting Reiki teachings and the purpose of them.
I agree there are some Reiki courses that are taught poorly with the "have an attunement and a copy of the manual" approach, but there are also very good quality courses taught over weekend workshops with after course support.
The "piecemeal" comments relates to the way some of the college courses are taught (and this is no reflection on your own teaching Reiki Pixie as it sounds as though you do a good job). I know of several people who have experienced very poor teaching in Reiki through colleges. One lady in particular I was speaking to came to me asking for advice on more than one occasion. The first time she had only been doing the course for two weeks and, in this second week she had received her first attunement to Reiki and was feeling ill after it. I asked if she was doing self-healing and she said she didn't know what that was, but took out her course notes and saw that it was something covered in the 2 weeks later. Later on in the course she came to me again because she had had an experience where she had used one of the Reiki symbols against her son when he was being annoying and, in her words, she literally knocked him over with it. Again I asked what she had been taught in respect of this and she said that they had been shown the symbols and asked to learn them, but she didn't know what they were for or the purpose of them yet. IMHO, this was appalling teaching, being shown or given something in one week to be completed in a later week. With weekend workshops, all is covered in that concentrated period of learning and nobody leaves the course only half knowing things.
Unfortunely, and I've worked in education myself so I know this to be true, colleges and universities only care about, as they put it, "bums on seats" i.e. more students = more money. This, of course, is not a reflection of the individual teachers but rather the management structure of such places and their lack of care or even understanding about what they are offering. There is, IMO, a little too much of the attitude that if it's currently a big thing in the marketplace they should run a course on it. Very few of the colleges (not the teachers, but the colleges themselves) understand that Reiki is a personal journey for a person and can be life changing, and that it's not just about getting qualified to be a practitioner in a clinic to earn money.
The deepness of teaching comes from after course support, reiki shares etc. and there is no additional benefit of doing it via a college course IMO.
All college courses check with their students to ensure they feel they are on the right course and either refund or transfer to other courses where necessary. However, IMHO, Reiki is right for anyone wanting to learn it. Who are we to decide for that person.
That's good. That shows you are a good teacher.
There are so many things being taught on the ITEC that are not strictly Reiki. They are more general Holistic therapies or relate to other specific therapies. Chakras are not Reiki. Dowsing and Kinesiology (Muscle Testing) is not Reiki etc. etc. They are beneficial techniques and can be used alongside Reiki, but they are being taught on the ITEC course as if they are an integral part of Reiki. How many students come away from an ITEC Reiki course and actually know what parts of the course are Reiki and what are add-ons?
You imply that students on non ITEC courses are just lay practitioners and not professional. That, from my experience, is not that case and is very judgmental of all non ITEC practitioners.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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Energylz P.S. I have to laugh at ITEC's description for the course:
Is that all it qualifies you to do? 100 hours of training just for that?
;)