Drugs Don't Work II : AIDS
Hi,
I'd like to circulate this article because genocide and population control shouldn't be allowed.
It's about what can only be described as the most successful marketing scam in human history: AIDS and AIDS drugs.
Please don't think that this is Africa so it won't affect you. It was a testing ground, and coming to a developed country near you soon.....
[quote]Subject: Africa - Treating Poverty with Toxic Drugs
>
> Johannesburg South Africa's magazine, The Individualist {July 2003}.
>
> Africa - Treating Poverty with Toxic Drugs
>
> by Liam Scheff
>
> "As to diseases, make a habit of two things - to help, or at least to do
> no harm."
> - Hippocrates, 5th Century B.C. Greek Physician, regarded as the father
> of medicine.
>
> According to the World Health Organization (WHO) and UNAIDS, 42 million
> people around the world are infected with HIV, and nearly 22 million
> people in Africa have died of AIDS. But AIDS isn't a single disease; it's
> a collection of diseases. When people are said to die of AIDS, they're
> known to die of a particular disease or condition, such as pneumonia,
> tuberculosis, malaria or basic malnutrition. AIDS researchers claim that
> HIV plays a role in the development of these illnesses, but in spite of
> this claim, 20 years of AIDS research has failed to prove causation
> between HIV infection and any so-called AIDS disease. So why do we call
> them AIDS deaths?
>
> In the US, AIDS is defined as a collection of 29 previously-known
> conditions including yeast infections, hepatitis, the flu, pneumonia,
> tuberculosis and Kaposi's Sarcoma. These conditions are not known to be
> caused by HIV. Nevertheless, the one thing that classifies any one of
> these conditions as AIDS is a positive HIV-antibody test.
>
> But even if HIV was found to cause these previously known conditions, a
> problem remains. The HW-antibody tests do not diagnose actual
> HIV-infection. Instead, they look for non-specific antibody reactions in
> your blood to proteins in the HIV-test. The test manufacturers claim that
> the proteins stand in for HIV, but in reality, none of the test proteins
> have been proven to be specific to HIV. These tests are, in fact, so
> nonspecific that they cross-react with nearly 70 other documented
> conditions, including the flu, previous vaccinations, blood transfusions,
> arthritis, alcoholic hepatitis, drug use, yeast infections and even
> pregnancy, as well as conditions endemic in Africa: tuberculosis,
> parasitic infection, leprosy and malaria. Because no HIV test can
> actually find HIV, not a single HIV-test has been approved by the PDA for
> diagnosing HIV-infection.
>
> In light of this nonspecific, cross-reacting test, how does the World
> Health Organsation (WHO) diagnose AIDS in Africa?"
>
> Simple: -they don't require any test at all. In 1985, the WHO created a
> new definition of AIDS for African nations and third world countries. The
> WHO'S "Bangui Definition" allows Africans with common physical symptoms
> including diarrhea, fever, weight loss, itching and coughing to be
> automatically designated as AIDS patients, with no HIV test. But these
> very symptoms define life for the majority of Africans who lack
> essentials like sufficient food, safe drinking water, proper sanitation
> and basic medical care. These symptoms are also synonymous with the,
> biggest killers on the continent: malaria, infectious diarrhea and
> tuberculosis. Western AIDS organizations are working to get toxic AIDS
> drugs into the hands of African governments, but what's the use of
> potentially deadly AIDS pharmaceuticals to people suffering from
> poverty-related diseases like chronic tuberculosis and malaria infection,
> or to pregnant mothers whose blood cross-reacts with
Answers:
[:-] Dear Neo1
How depressing is that. Thank you for posting the piece. It's so thought-provoking and not a little alarming. Apart from government control and big profits for the drug companies, do you see it as a vehicle for religious organisations/fanatical faiths to infiltrate populations who are vulnerable? I believe Nigeria (please correct me if I'm wrong), for example, has a huge Islam influence today.
Any thoughts?
x
Answers:
As I understand it AIDS destroys the body's immune system so that things like pneumonia, which the body would normally be able to deal with, become potentially fatal. In this case the person may technically die of pneumonia but the real cause is AIDS so I don't see the objection to calling this an AIDS death. I guess the objection is that if someone dies of pneumonia one could assume wrongly that he also had AIDS. I confess that as a layman I don't understand the point that '20 years of AIDS research has failed to prove causation'. I mean there is definitely a disease called AIDS which is potentially fatal, right? And AIDS is casued by a virus, right?. Beyond that I guess I'm not qualified to comment on the technicalities of the cause of AIDS. The article makes a strong case that the stats for AIDS are exaggerated but there is still an AIDS problem right?
I agree that to treat the symptoms of disease without addressing the causes is crazy. It's really shameful that people don't have basics like clean water in 2003.
Dr L
Answers:
Hi Dr L,
Well, the objection is that you can have pneumonia, take an AIDS test and the pneumonia antibodies trigger a false-positive in the AIDS test, so you get AZT or some other AIDS drug, which kills you, and your death is marked off as AIDS, even though it wasn't.
The point is that dozens of diseases can show up on an AIDS test as AIDS, even though they aren't.
If the AIDS test is so inaccurate, how can we know if anyone has AIDS?
Which brings up the next point:
NO-ONE has as yet isolated the AIDS-virus. You will notice that anytime you see a picture of the AIDS virus, it is computer-modelled.
If you dig deeply, you will find that the AIDS research world is split in two: those who promote the HIV-AIDS hypothosis, and those who refute it. Sadly, only one side gets a say in the media....... guess which?
His website is here: http://www.duesberg.com/index.html
A very good book on the subject is World Without AIDS, available from www.credence.org
A couple more quotes (from: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/)
More links:
http://aidsmyth.addr.com/
and:
... http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/le951101.html
and...
http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/
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Hi Ros,
I don't know whether it's religious or not. I'm pretty sure, from piecing together whatever information I can, that AIDS is another vehicle for population control.
It's quite clear to me that whoever is running the governments (the big governments act with too much synergy to not be controlled by some unified society, as is obvious with the CODEX ban on vitamins due shortly) is not interested in keeping citizens alive. These poor people are used as profit centres and when they are spent, they are discarded. AIDS isn't the only method of population control..... not the AIDS "virus", which doesn't exist, but the AIDS myth.
Hitler experimented with fluoride as a means of population control, and now we know that fluoride preferentially replaces calcium in the hman pineal gland (3rd eye area). Draw your own conclusions.
Steve Ransom, investigative health journalist, has unearthed some astonishing information, a couple of snippets which are quoted below:
[quote]TETANUS/STERILITY VACCINE
James Miller, a correspondent for Human Life International, brings us the following report on an equally inhumane, equally covert attempt at human population control, this time carried out in Tanzania, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines. Quite shockingly, this particular campaign was creatively disguised as a 'deeply caring' World Health Organisation tetanus vaccination campaign.
During the early 1990's, the World Health Organization conducted an extensive vaccination campaign against tetanus in a number of countries. In October 1994, Human Life International became suspicious of the campaign protocols. They obtained several phials of the vaccine and had them analysed by chemists. Some of the phials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy.
When introduced into the body, coupled with a tetanus toxoid carrier, antibodies are formed not only against tetanus but also against hCG. In this case the body fails to recognize hCG as a friend and will produce anti-hCG antibodies . The antibodies will attack subsequent pregnancies by killing the hCG which naturally sustains a pregnancy. When a woman has sufficient anti-hCG antibodies in her system, she is rendered incapable of maintaining a pregnancy.
HLI reported the sketchy facts regarding the Mexican tetanus vaccines to its affiliates in more than 60 countries. Soon additional reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormone were received from the Philippines, where more than 3.4 million women were recently vaccinated. Similar reports came from Nicaragua, which had conducted its own vaccination campaign in 1993.
"The Known Facts concerning the WHO tetanus vaccination campaigns in Tanzania, Nigeria, Mexico and the Philippines. Only women were vaccinated, and only women between the ages of 15 and 45. Why? Aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why were they exclude
Answers:
Hi Neo,
OK so what do those who refute the HIV virus hypothesis say is the cause of AIDS? Do they accept that AIDS is an infectious disease that can be passed on by unprotected sex?
Dr L
Answers:
It's a fascinating & contraversial subject and I would almost have certainly read the article if it was via a link.
I'm well aware of the lack of morals & principles of drug companies & one should bear in mind that some countries can not even feed the starving so they have to prioritise & may well be corrupt into the bargain.
But my point is - What happened to the guidelines of not pasting whole articles writtne by others on these pages?
I feel you'd gain more interest & support by tempering your approach.
Answers:
Thank you for posting this Neo, sadly I was already aware of a lot of it, being an avid reader of Nexus magazine which tends to cover such things as this. You could talk somantics for years over whether someone who is HIV positive and dies of pneumonia really died of AIDS, and still not get anywhere. The fact remains though that my Dad who was riddled with cancer, had stroke put on his death certificate, even though this too was no doubt agravated by the cancer.
June
I'd like to circulate this article because genocide and population control shouldn't be allowed.
It's about what can only be described as the most successful marketing scam in human history: AIDS and AIDS drugs.
Please don't think that this is Africa so it won't affect you. It was a testing ground, and coming to a developed country near you soon.....
[quote]Subject: Africa - Treating Poverty with Toxic Drugs
>
> Johannesburg South Africa's magazine, The Individualist {July 2003}.
>
> Africa - Treating Poverty with Toxic Drugs
>
> by Liam Scheff
>
> "As to diseases, make a habit of two things - to help, or at least to do
> no harm."
> - Hippocrates, 5th Century B.C. Greek Physician, regarded as the father
> of medicine.
>
> According to the World Health Organization (WHO) and UNAIDS, 42 million
> people around the world are infected with HIV, and nearly 22 million
> people in Africa have died of AIDS. But AIDS isn't a single disease; it's
> a collection of diseases. When people are said to die of AIDS, they're
> known to die of a particular disease or condition, such as pneumonia,
> tuberculosis, malaria or basic malnutrition. AIDS researchers claim that
> HIV plays a role in the development of these illnesses, but in spite of
> this claim, 20 years of AIDS research has failed to prove causation
> between HIV infection and any so-called AIDS disease. So why do we call
> them AIDS deaths?
>
> In the US, AIDS is defined as a collection of 29 previously-known
> conditions including yeast infections, hepatitis, the flu, pneumonia,
> tuberculosis and Kaposi's Sarcoma. These conditions are not known to be
> caused by HIV. Nevertheless, the one thing that classifies any one of
> these conditions as AIDS is a positive HIV-antibody test.
>
> But even if HIV was found to cause these previously known conditions, a
> problem remains. The HW-antibody tests do not diagnose actual
> HIV-infection. Instead, they look for non-specific antibody reactions in
> your blood to proteins in the HIV-test. The test manufacturers claim that
> the proteins stand in for HIV, but in reality, none of the test proteins
> have been proven to be specific to HIV. These tests are, in fact, so
> nonspecific that they cross-react with nearly 70 other documented
> conditions, including the flu, previous vaccinations, blood transfusions,
> arthritis, alcoholic hepatitis, drug use, yeast infections and even
> pregnancy, as well as conditions endemic in Africa: tuberculosis,
> parasitic infection, leprosy and malaria. Because no HIV test can
> actually find HIV, not a single HIV-test has been approved by the PDA for
> diagnosing HIV-infection.
>
> In light of this nonspecific, cross-reacting test, how does the World
> Health Organsation (WHO) diagnose AIDS in Africa?"
>
> Simple: -they don't require any test at all. In 1985, the WHO created a
> new definition of AIDS for African nations and third world countries. The
> WHO'S "Bangui Definition" allows Africans with common physical symptoms
> including diarrhea, fever, weight loss, itching and coughing to be
> automatically designated as AIDS patients, with no HIV test. But these
> very symptoms define life for the majority of Africans who lack
> essentials like sufficient food, safe drinking water, proper sanitation
> and basic medical care. These symptoms are also synonymous with the,
> biggest killers on the continent: malaria, infectious diarrhea and
> tuberculosis. Western AIDS organizations are working to get toxic AIDS
> drugs into the hands of African governments, but what's the use of
> potentially deadly AIDS pharmaceuticals to people suffering from
> poverty-related diseases like chronic tuberculosis and malaria infection,
> or to pregnant mothers whose blood cross-reacts with
Answers:
[:-] Dear Neo1
How depressing is that. Thank you for posting the piece. It's so thought-provoking and not a little alarming. Apart from government control and big profits for the drug companies, do you see it as a vehicle for religious organisations/fanatical faiths to infiltrate populations who are vulnerable? I believe Nigeria (please correct me if I'm wrong), for example, has a huge Islam influence today.
Any thoughts?
x
Answers:
As I understand it AIDS destroys the body's immune system so that things like pneumonia, which the body would normally be able to deal with, become potentially fatal. In this case the person may technically die of pneumonia but the real cause is AIDS so I don't see the objection to calling this an AIDS death. I guess the objection is that if someone dies of pneumonia one could assume wrongly that he also had AIDS. I confess that as a layman I don't understand the point that '20 years of AIDS research has failed to prove causation'. I mean there is definitely a disease called AIDS which is potentially fatal, right? And AIDS is casued by a virus, right?. Beyond that I guess I'm not qualified to comment on the technicalities of the cause of AIDS. The article makes a strong case that the stats for AIDS are exaggerated but there is still an AIDS problem right?
I agree that to treat the symptoms of disease without addressing the causes is crazy. It's really shameful that people don't have basics like clean water in 2003.
Dr L
Answers:
Hi Dr L,
Well, the objection is that you can have pneumonia, take an AIDS test and the pneumonia antibodies trigger a false-positive in the AIDS test, so you get AZT or some other AIDS drug, which kills you, and your death is marked off as AIDS, even though it wasn't.
The point is that dozens of diseases can show up on an AIDS test as AIDS, even though they aren't.
If the AIDS test is so inaccurate, how can we know if anyone has AIDS?
Which brings up the next point:
NO-ONE has as yet isolated the AIDS-virus. You will notice that anytime you see a picture of the AIDS virus, it is computer-modelled.
If you dig deeply, you will find that the AIDS research world is split in two: those who promote the HIV-AIDS hypothosis, and those who refute it. Sadly, only one side gets a say in the media....... guess which?
His website is here: http://www.duesberg.com/index.html
A very good book on the subject is World Without AIDS, available from www.credence.org
A couple more quotes (from: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/)
More links:
http://aidsmyth.addr.com/
and:
... http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/le951101.html
and...
http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/
Answers:
Hi Ros,
I don't know whether it's religious or not. I'm pretty sure, from piecing together whatever information I can, that AIDS is another vehicle for population control.
It's quite clear to me that whoever is running the governments (the big governments act with too much synergy to not be controlled by some unified society, as is obvious with the CODEX ban on vitamins due shortly) is not interested in keeping citizens alive. These poor people are used as profit centres and when they are spent, they are discarded. AIDS isn't the only method of population control..... not the AIDS "virus", which doesn't exist, but the AIDS myth.
Hitler experimented with fluoride as a means of population control, and now we know that fluoride preferentially replaces calcium in the hman pineal gland (3rd eye area). Draw your own conclusions.
Steve Ransom, investigative health journalist, has unearthed some astonishing information, a couple of snippets which are quoted below:
[quote]TETANUS/STERILITY VACCINE
James Miller, a correspondent for Human Life International, brings us the following report on an equally inhumane, equally covert attempt at human population control, this time carried out in Tanzania, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines. Quite shockingly, this particular campaign was creatively disguised as a 'deeply caring' World Health Organisation tetanus vaccination campaign.
During the early 1990's, the World Health Organization conducted an extensive vaccination campaign against tetanus in a number of countries. In October 1994, Human Life International became suspicious of the campaign protocols. They obtained several phials of the vaccine and had them analysed by chemists. Some of the phials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy.
When introduced into the body, coupled with a tetanus toxoid carrier, antibodies are formed not only against tetanus but also against hCG. In this case the body fails to recognize hCG as a friend and will produce anti-hCG antibodies . The antibodies will attack subsequent pregnancies by killing the hCG which naturally sustains a pregnancy. When a woman has sufficient anti-hCG antibodies in her system, she is rendered incapable of maintaining a pregnancy.
HLI reported the sketchy facts regarding the Mexican tetanus vaccines to its affiliates in more than 60 countries. Soon additional reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormone were received from the Philippines, where more than 3.4 million women were recently vaccinated. Similar reports came from Nicaragua, which had conducted its own vaccination campaign in 1993.
"The Known Facts concerning the WHO tetanus vaccination campaigns in Tanzania, Nigeria, Mexico and the Philippines. Only women were vaccinated, and only women between the ages of 15 and 45. Why? Aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why were they exclude
Answers:
Hi Neo,
OK so what do those who refute the HIV virus hypothesis say is the cause of AIDS? Do they accept that AIDS is an infectious disease that can be passed on by unprotected sex?
Dr L
Answers:
It's a fascinating & contraversial subject and I would almost have certainly read the article if it was via a link.
I'm well aware of the lack of morals & principles of drug companies & one should bear in mind that some countries can not even feed the starving so they have to prioritise & may well be corrupt into the bargain.
But my point is - What happened to the guidelines of not pasting whole articles writtne by others on these pages?
I feel you'd gain more interest & support by tempering your approach.
Answers:
Thank you for posting this Neo, sadly I was already aware of a lot of it, being an avid reader of Nexus magazine which tends to cover such things as this. You could talk somantics for years over whether someone who is HIV positive and dies of pneumonia really died of AIDS, and still not get anywhere. The fact remains though that my Dad who was riddled with cancer, had stroke put on his death certificate, even though this too was no doubt agravated by the cancer.
June