can anyone help????
for the past 8 months i have been feeling unwell when i eat..i have been to see my gp but he just keeps telling me that its down to stress but i don't agree as i am not stresst at all infact i'm more happy now than i have ever been...can anyone help as it's beginning to get me down this happens everytime i eat and i love my food.
zoe.
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Is there a particular food or food type that makes you feel like this or to put it another way - is there anything that you can eat and feel fine after?
Andrew
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Stress!! Hhhmmm, the doctors are always quick to use that one. There's many forms of it so it's easy to pick the wrong reason for your stress. The trouble is, you're eating problem is like a womans monthly cycle, the more you worry about it the worse it gets.
Personnally I would follow in what Anahata has said. Find a type of food that sets it off. I suffer from Rosacea (you can find out about it at: www.crystalskin.net) which is set off by various things such as the sun, alcohol, fatty foods and dairy, wheat, yeast. I combat the problem by cleansing, toning and moisturising my face twice a day. I exfoliate 2-3 times and week and on a daily basis I use E45, Simple's Sun sensitive skin cover up and a tinted moisteriser. I only drink a few times a month when I go out. I don't eat bread unless I've made my yeast free loaf and as for fatty foods and dairy, well they make me feel sick as well. There is to many bad chemicals in food, the air that we breath etc...so it's hardly surprising that the body is effected in some way.
I know of a lot of people that have or are developing a fat and dairy intolerance so you should look at those as a possible cause. The best way of doing it is to maintain a 'My Food' log that you complete everytime you eat something. Just put down what you had, what was in it, how was it prepared and the symptoms you suffered. Try to avoid frying food if you do, the grill, oven and boiling procedures are better for you.
Hope this helps and let us know how you're doing!!
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
[sm=food-smiley-004.gif]
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thankyou for your info..its everything i eat i can eat a nut and i will feel ill..im a very healthy person and dont eat alot of fatty foods and im not really a drinker although i do smoke (but not alot)! it is getting harder to eat because i know that when i do i'll feel unwell but at the same time i know i need food to give me energy as i have 4 chidren! i'll have a look at the sight you poasted for me and see if it helps! thankyou both again!
zoe.
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If not veggie, then suggest just eating nonadulterated meat (incl. fish, but probably not eggs) and none starchy veg. As you say - you have to eat something and these are less likely to be a problem.
Have a read through the Allergies Forum -
And about NAET in particular. Not wishing to sound too dramatic, but I suspect that I've been in similar position to you, to the point of feeling like - if I didn't eat, then I would be fine. Well except for the obvious fact that it's not the best long term stratergy.
If you need any more pointers, feel free to give me a shout. ;)
Andrew.
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The other problem is that you know you'll feel ill if you eat so maybe some of it is now psychological...which in turn stresses you out...which sets your mind off thinking you're gonna be ill...hence feeling ill!!
The body is an amazing, magnificant thang, but sometimes it's to fussy, fanicity (however it's spelt :D ) and unreliable...etc [:'(]
Hope you find a way round this, nothing worse than feeling ill and not being able to control it like you would a pulled muscle, cut...etc!!
Take care guys!!
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
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Thankyou all for your advise...its helped alot i'm going to go and see my gp again and take with me the info you all have given! so we might just get to the bottom of this (I HOPE!). i'll let you know how i get on!
zoe.[sm=nuts.gif]
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Good for you and good luck at the docs.
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
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Ooooooo Jules, I don't think so, sorry.
My heart sank when I read your post.
When people have food sensitivies and allergies they really do suffer and when they feel well then they are just glad about it. They struggle to get through the day and would do anything to live 'normal' lives.
They are sometimes driven mad by not knowing what is causing their problems and to throw in psychological stuff doesn't help.[&:]
I appreciate what you say about the mind being very powerful, there is not doubt about that. But how many people have been told 'it's all in your head?' Enough to drive you mad.
Sorry, but if you treated some of the people I treat with sensitivies and allergies I think you might change your view on this. As some of them are babies and children, I can't see how it can apply.
No offense, but I just don't think that is the problem.
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Right, sorry guys. I apologise for offending people when I was speaking from personal experience.
I understand that it is more than likely that Zoe is more than likely suffering from something that is physical and not psychological. However, what I was trying to point out is that like me, "maybe some of it is now psychological".
For example, I can't eat egg if it is fried/boiled/scrambled etc for genuine physical reasons as it makes me ill, however I can just about manage to eat egg fried rice as long as I take the larger pieces of egg out. So in this case it might be my 'fail-safe-trigger' in my mind saying after a while, "Ok, you can't eat egg at all!!", purely because when I had a boiled egg some time ago I was sick...maybe my body doesn't want to go through all that again.
I apologise again as I hate the idea that what I have said has offended, upset or angered someone/people...believe me I know how it feels.
You told me not to misjudge in my opinions Candie, as I said before these were personal experiences that I thought maybe beneficial.
I agree with you that what I said could and probably has offended etc, however you have now misjudged me. I am a sufferer of the genetic disease Lipoedema and I know only to well what it is like to have doctors/work colleagues/general public etc to just assume you are something you aren't or you suffer from nothing except for...in my case...laziness, over eating, just generally fat etc which was something I spent years hearing until someone managed to put a name to what I have.
Please read the threads in the Lipoedema forum, but also feel free to ask me questions, I'm more than happy to tell you what I go through on a day to day basis. Some mornings I wake up and I'm not to bad, other days I wake up and I can't even get to the toilet with out clinging to the wall and taking 10 mins to get there when normally it takes only seconds.
I led an active life for years but now I endure pain and restrictive motions on a daily basis. Like I said, I know only to well how it feels.
I also understand that I would more than likely feel as defensive as you did with my remark...I also know that I would have been slightly less judgemental towards someone who was speaking on personal experience.
I think the courses you have done are very commendable and I would appreciate it greatly if I could see evidence on your findings as I feel they would benefit my own intolorences.
Again, please accept my apologies, I will endevour to stitch my lips together next time so I don't say anything out of context...or rather in this case, I'll put my thickest wooly gloves on so I can't type. :D
Sowwy again!! :)
Jools (the Gobby) <that is actually my nickname to my photography evening class friends :D
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Dear Zoe,
I'm glad to hear that your going back to your GP. Sometimes it's only when you go back that, then they think - we really need to look into this.
It may even be better to hold off on the exclusion diet in the meantime. I just suggested this as a temorary measure to see you thru.
Especially, if you can get an early appointment, as this may negate any adverse blood test results. i.e. the blood test that can suggest an intolerance to gluten (celiac) - a protein commonly found in most western grains. The test itself isn't perfect, but if this is the problem, then it's more likely to show up if your actually eating wheat, etc.
All such diagnostic tests are not all encompassing and they can only test for specific things that they believe can be a problem, so there has to be a reason to do them.
I suspect, if anything shows up then it's most likely to be a raised level of oesinophils. If this is all they find or indeed if anything or nothing is found then please let us know how your getting on.
And please don't let suggestions that it's all in your head get you down. This is a 'dust bin' diagnosis and is otherwise called 'patient blaming'. To translate it's what is said if the practitioner doesn't know what the problem is and the only way to absolve them of the need to look any further is to say - it's psychosomatic. So I agree with Candie that questioning your own mind and experiences, whilst it is healthy to a degree, but anymore, then it can indeed lead to a dark place that I have been many times and anything that I can reasonably do to prevent others from going there, I will. ;)
Andrew.
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I agree with you there Andrew.
As I said just above, I spent years getting told the negative things...to fat, lazy, get off yer butt and exercise, stop eating junk food...when infact I wasn't lazy, was very active and an extremely healthy eater.
When I eventually moved to London and began having serious problems, I went from one doctor to another, one specialist to another. I seen about 20 different doctors and specialists in 18 months until Professor Mortimer at St. Georges Hospital in London was able to put a name to it.
Years of anguish and depression could have been avoided if my original doctor from the clinic near where my mum lives was more educated in Lipoedema.
Sites like these are beneficial in helping to pass information, advice, knowledge and understanding about 'subjects' that people don't know about, understand etc.
Jools :)
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Dear Zoe
May I also suggest seeing another GP in your practice if this is possible? You might get a different reaction altogether, instead of going over the same ground with your own GP.
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Hi Zoe,
If you are not happy with your doctors diagnosis, you might like to request a referral to someone else...a specialist. You are within your rights to do this and at least a second opinion will hopefully shed more light.
Personally I do not agree with giving medical diagnosis or dietary advice over the internet...however one thing for sure, worrying about what might be happening with you could be aggravting and contributing to create stress:(
I hope you get sorted out soon. Good luck
Pauline Maria
zoe.
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Is there a particular food or food type that makes you feel like this or to put it another way - is there anything that you can eat and feel fine after?
Andrew
Answers:
Stress!! Hhhmmm, the doctors are always quick to use that one. There's many forms of it so it's easy to pick the wrong reason for your stress. The trouble is, you're eating problem is like a womans monthly cycle, the more you worry about it the worse it gets.
Personnally I would follow in what Anahata has said. Find a type of food that sets it off. I suffer from Rosacea (you can find out about it at: www.crystalskin.net) which is set off by various things such as the sun, alcohol, fatty foods and dairy, wheat, yeast. I combat the problem by cleansing, toning and moisturising my face twice a day. I exfoliate 2-3 times and week and on a daily basis I use E45, Simple's Sun sensitive skin cover up and a tinted moisteriser. I only drink a few times a month when I go out. I don't eat bread unless I've made my yeast free loaf and as for fatty foods and dairy, well they make me feel sick as well. There is to many bad chemicals in food, the air that we breath etc...so it's hardly surprising that the body is effected in some way.
I know of a lot of people that have or are developing a fat and dairy intolerance so you should look at those as a possible cause. The best way of doing it is to maintain a 'My Food' log that you complete everytime you eat something. Just put down what you had, what was in it, how was it prepared and the symptoms you suffered. Try to avoid frying food if you do, the grill, oven and boiling procedures are better for you.
Hope this helps and let us know how you're doing!!
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
[sm=food-smiley-004.gif]
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thankyou for your info..its everything i eat i can eat a nut and i will feel ill..im a very healthy person and dont eat alot of fatty foods and im not really a drinker although i do smoke (but not alot)! it is getting harder to eat because i know that when i do i'll feel unwell but at the same time i know i need food to give me energy as i have 4 chidren! i'll have a look at the sight you poasted for me and see if it helps! thankyou both again!
zoe.
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If not veggie, then suggest just eating nonadulterated meat (incl. fish, but probably not eggs) and none starchy veg. As you say - you have to eat something and these are less likely to be a problem.
Have a read through the Allergies Forum -
And about NAET in particular. Not wishing to sound too dramatic, but I suspect that I've been in similar position to you, to the point of feeling like - if I didn't eat, then I would be fine. Well except for the obvious fact that it's not the best long term stratergy.
If you need any more pointers, feel free to give me a shout. ;)
Andrew.
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The other problem is that you know you'll feel ill if you eat so maybe some of it is now psychological...which in turn stresses you out...which sets your mind off thinking you're gonna be ill...hence feeling ill!!
The body is an amazing, magnificant thang, but sometimes it's to fussy, fanicity (however it's spelt :D ) and unreliable...etc [:'(]
Hope you find a way round this, nothing worse than feeling ill and not being able to control it like you would a pulled muscle, cut...etc!!
Take care guys!!
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
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Thankyou all for your advise...its helped alot i'm going to go and see my gp again and take with me the info you all have given! so we might just get to the bottom of this (I HOPE!). i'll let you know how i get on!
zoe.[sm=nuts.gif]
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Good for you and good luck at the docs.
Jools [sm=dogrun.gif] [sm=dance.gif] :D
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Ooooooo Jules, I don't think so, sorry.
My heart sank when I read your post.
When people have food sensitivies and allergies they really do suffer and when they feel well then they are just glad about it. They struggle to get through the day and would do anything to live 'normal' lives.
They are sometimes driven mad by not knowing what is causing their problems and to throw in psychological stuff doesn't help.[&:]
I appreciate what you say about the mind being very powerful, there is not doubt about that. But how many people have been told 'it's all in your head?' Enough to drive you mad.
Sorry, but if you treated some of the people I treat with sensitivies and allergies I think you might change your view on this. As some of them are babies and children, I can't see how it can apply.
No offense, but I just don't think that is the problem.
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Right, sorry guys. I apologise for offending people when I was speaking from personal experience.
I understand that it is more than likely that Zoe is more than likely suffering from something that is physical and not psychological. However, what I was trying to point out is that like me, "maybe some of it is now psychological".
For example, I can't eat egg if it is fried/boiled/scrambled etc for genuine physical reasons as it makes me ill, however I can just about manage to eat egg fried rice as long as I take the larger pieces of egg out. So in this case it might be my 'fail-safe-trigger' in my mind saying after a while, "Ok, you can't eat egg at all!!", purely because when I had a boiled egg some time ago I was sick...maybe my body doesn't want to go through all that again.
I apologise again as I hate the idea that what I have said has offended, upset or angered someone/people...believe me I know how it feels.
You told me not to misjudge in my opinions Candie, as I said before these were personal experiences that I thought maybe beneficial.
I agree with you that what I said could and probably has offended etc, however you have now misjudged me. I am a sufferer of the genetic disease Lipoedema and I know only to well what it is like to have doctors/work colleagues/general public etc to just assume you are something you aren't or you suffer from nothing except for...in my case...laziness, over eating, just generally fat etc which was something I spent years hearing until someone managed to put a name to what I have.
Please read the threads in the Lipoedema forum, but also feel free to ask me questions, I'm more than happy to tell you what I go through on a day to day basis. Some mornings I wake up and I'm not to bad, other days I wake up and I can't even get to the toilet with out clinging to the wall and taking 10 mins to get there when normally it takes only seconds.
I led an active life for years but now I endure pain and restrictive motions on a daily basis. Like I said, I know only to well how it feels.
I also understand that I would more than likely feel as defensive as you did with my remark...I also know that I would have been slightly less judgemental towards someone who was speaking on personal experience.
I think the courses you have done are very commendable and I would appreciate it greatly if I could see evidence on your findings as I feel they would benefit my own intolorences.
Again, please accept my apologies, I will endevour to stitch my lips together next time so I don't say anything out of context...or rather in this case, I'll put my thickest wooly gloves on so I can't type. :D
Sowwy again!! :)
Jools (the Gobby) <that is actually my nickname to my photography evening class friends :D
Answers:
Dear Zoe,
I'm glad to hear that your going back to your GP. Sometimes it's only when you go back that, then they think - we really need to look into this.
It may even be better to hold off on the exclusion diet in the meantime. I just suggested this as a temorary measure to see you thru.
Especially, if you can get an early appointment, as this may negate any adverse blood test results. i.e. the blood test that can suggest an intolerance to gluten (celiac) - a protein commonly found in most western grains. The test itself isn't perfect, but if this is the problem, then it's more likely to show up if your actually eating wheat, etc.
All such diagnostic tests are not all encompassing and they can only test for specific things that they believe can be a problem, so there has to be a reason to do them.
I suspect, if anything shows up then it's most likely to be a raised level of oesinophils. If this is all they find or indeed if anything or nothing is found then please let us know how your getting on.
And please don't let suggestions that it's all in your head get you down. This is a 'dust bin' diagnosis and is otherwise called 'patient blaming'. To translate it's what is said if the practitioner doesn't know what the problem is and the only way to absolve them of the need to look any further is to say - it's psychosomatic. So I agree with Candie that questioning your own mind and experiences, whilst it is healthy to a degree, but anymore, then it can indeed lead to a dark place that I have been many times and anything that I can reasonably do to prevent others from going there, I will. ;)
Andrew.
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I agree with you there Andrew.
As I said just above, I spent years getting told the negative things...to fat, lazy, get off yer butt and exercise, stop eating junk food...when infact I wasn't lazy, was very active and an extremely healthy eater.
When I eventually moved to London and began having serious problems, I went from one doctor to another, one specialist to another. I seen about 20 different doctors and specialists in 18 months until Professor Mortimer at St. Georges Hospital in London was able to put a name to it.
Years of anguish and depression could have been avoided if my original doctor from the clinic near where my mum lives was more educated in Lipoedema.
Sites like these are beneficial in helping to pass information, advice, knowledge and understanding about 'subjects' that people don't know about, understand etc.
Jools :)
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Dear Zoe
May I also suggest seeing another GP in your practice if this is possible? You might get a different reaction altogether, instead of going over the same ground with your own GP.
Answers:
Hi Zoe,
If you are not happy with your doctors diagnosis, you might like to request a referral to someone else...a specialist. You are within your rights to do this and at least a second opinion will hopefully shed more light.
Personally I do not agree with giving medical diagnosis or dietary advice over the internet...however one thing for sure, worrying about what might be happening with you could be aggravting and contributing to create stress:(
I hope you get sorted out soon. Good luck
Pauline Maria