Is the 6-sided ring holding TNA back??
Is the 6-sided ring holding TNA back??
Its been about 3 years since TNA started using the 6 sided ring, and i still think its holding the company back. Now, some will say that its different and innovative than the same old 4 sided ring thats been used for decades , but i dont see the difference as far as what it does for matches. When it debuted, i read that it was more for enhancing the X division, and as we all know, the X division isnt TNA's main focus anymore. Before the 6-sided ring was used I HIGHLY doubt anyone had turned on TNA and thought "this would be cooler if the ring had 2 extra sides." I dont see traditional or casual wrestling fans being too intrigued by the ring, and i think it turns off potiental viewers. With the possibility of a 2 hour slot comming up, i think its the perfect time to end the 6 sides of crap.
I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course.
I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course. x2
No ring in the world will help them if they continue making the mistakes they've fallen into.
its the thing you see the most on a wrestling show, so asthetically it does make a difference. it makes TNA look more gimmicked, childish and cartoonish. theres 'good different' (like wearing a tie with a cool pattern to work), then theres 'stupid different' (like wearing a clownsuit to work). theres no need for a six sided ring and it makes tna look foolish
I think it is one of the many factors holding them back. There are numerous instances during matches that the wrestlers make mistakes because of the awkwardness of the ring. For example, a wrestler throws another into the turnbuckle and the other wrestler runs off as if they were thrown into the ropes. It can really hurt an otherwise decent match by causing too many missed spots.
I agree with the 'Foolish Factor'... If TNA gets a 2 hour time slot, SQUARE ring, and a few more big names then they can compete, easy...
But I think the 'classic' wrestling fan tunes into TNA and sees the ring and gets turned off by it. There is no give to the ropes, it looks too gimmicky, it makes the ring look super small.
I think they need a classic ring. You dont see any indy promotions or any other orgnization in the 'fighting' world using a 6 sided ring. The UFC and other MMA groups are the only places where you don't find a squared circle...
I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course. Repped
What is holding TNA back? I used to be able to show people who were either former wrestling fans or who never watched wrestling TNA and get a positive reaction. They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them.
What is holding TNA back? I used to be able to show people who were either former wrestling fans or who never watched wrestling TNA and get a positive reaction. They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them. I tune in to watch the Steiners.
Good post, BAB.
They need to increase production value and advertise more as well. When people think wrestling, they automatically think WWE. Hit some major marketing places and advertise the hell out of the product and as more people watch, word of mouth will begin to increase and the ratings will go up a bit. Also make fans care about the wrestlings, and so interested in the stories and matches that they don't turn away. TNA has failed to hook people when they had a golden opportunity to (Angles jump).
.......They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them. so, all the X division stars can perform just as well in a four sided ring. if you dont think so, then watch early TNA shows or Indy shows with TNA talent.
TNA needs to have some reconizable names to be taken seriously. Im not for Test, Rikishi, Goldust, Albert and other legit deadweight wrestlers to join TNA, but guys like Matt Morgan, & Tomko have potiential and will eventually be big contributers to the product. Whereas wresters like Sting, Angle, Steiner, Christian the Dudleys and eventually RVD, need to be used in feuds to elevate younger stars. Theyve been big names in the wrestling world for 10+ years and are well known among the wrestling world. The way i see it, a Dudleys/Steiners feud really does nothing for TNA, on theotherhand a decent Dudleys/Shelly & Sabin feud could bring out the best in both Sabin and Shelley.
What is the point of bringing in new guys when they don't properly use the talent they already have?
And even more so, what's anybodies motivation to wrestle for TNA? Kayfabed, all the wrestlers there should be concerned about winning a title. What's the point if all the belts are on one man? that's ridiculous. I like Kurt Angle, but him holding all the titles makes them not mean sh*t. People feud over the X Title for months, and he wins it in a straight up normal match, along with BOTH tag titles. wtf!?
I think that part of their problem is the 6 sided ring. It was brought in for the X division, yet i recently read that they are considering scrapping that division. I think that if they are to be successful they need better booking, and they also need to make more of their own stars. As entertaining as the likes of Christian are, they are just WWE rejects
I think that part of their problem is the 6 sided ring. It was brought in for the X division, yet i recently read that they are considering scrapping that division. I think that if they are to be successful they need better booking, and they also need to make more of their own stars. As entertaining as the likes of Christian are, they are just WWE rejects
the rumors were that they were going to unify the X with the World title, which isnt gonna happen.
Christian is a WWE reject because he chose to leave the WWE?
It's one of the factors, the show as a whole sucks though... way too flashy, very stereotypical pro-wrestling show aimed at little kids.
I can't stand the ring though, it reminds me of the ghetto AAA or CMLL or whatever it is in Mexico with the six-sided ring and the tiny audience of 1,000 people.
TNA Problems
Well TNA has many things holding them back, but let's be fair their wrestling matches are so much better than the wwe's...I've never liked the 6 sided ring, I thought it was just a way to make it different to the wwe and such...Either way it was a bad idea, since practicly every wrestler was trained in the squared circle as we say...but that's not the only thing holding TNA back...here's all the problems I can see with it:
1. 6 sided ring as we all said
2. 1 hour time slot (very shitty, needs to be 2 hours)
3. The network (sorry but spike is a bad network to be on, imo)
4. Poor advertising...barely any sort of advertisement
5. Giving the wrong guys the push (certan former wwe guys)
6. Booking is bad, do they only do shows in the south?
But I've noticed you guys have been tough on some of the former wwe guys. For the record, Christian is not a wwe reject. The WWE is a Christian reject lol...he left on his own terms...
As for Angle I do not consider him a reject, they suspended him, then fired him because he would fit injured and didn't want to stop, I do not blame the WWE for letting him go but he is no reject...I do not consider Tomko, the dudleys or rhino wwe rejects...the wwe fired rhino because he broke a tea kettle in a hotel...some the guys had to leave the WWE, they had no choice, because their talent was being wasted...
BTW, is rikishi actually with TNA? What about Goldust and Albert? I think I saw Goldust, but he's not a reject, his time has passed...that's different
As for RVD, I think they should put the belt on him a few times during his run in TNA, he deserves it...he never did get the push he deserved because of people like Steph and Triple H...he did at one point, but he screwed it up, that was his fault...
Ok read my reasons why TNA cannot advance once more...remember these problems are easily solved...with a bit of cash and time, TNA could be in SERIOUS competition with the WWE, but they cannot pull a wcw...they shouldn't live off former wwe talent...
P.S They should just kill the x division and make a mid card title, a light heavyweight title and womens title if they don't have one already
I think a light heavyweight division would be awesome in TNA, it worked well for WCW when they had guys like Pillman, Malenko, Guerrero etc...I would like to see this...
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the ring bothers me
the ring bothers me I dont like it either....I had a friend that doesn't watch wrestling that saw it and he said it was "really ghey!"
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I dont like it either....I had a friend that doesn't watch wrestling that saw it and he said it was "really ghey!" They could of just made the squared circle, larger, instead of adding more sides & changing it now would be like admitting a failure. Perhaps they could have an alternative ring that is closer or like what some people want to see. I'm still saying it, I could make TNA better. I don't want to, but I could, for a price. :D
Its been about 3 years since TNA started using the 6 sided ring, and i still think its holding the company back. Now, some will say that its different and innovative than the same old 4 sided ring thats been used for decades , but i dont see the difference as far as what it does for matches. When it debuted, i read that it was more for enhancing the X division, and as we all know, the X division isnt TNA's main focus anymore. Before the 6-sided ring was used I HIGHLY doubt anyone had turned on TNA and thought "this would be cooler if the ring had 2 extra sides." I dont see traditional or casual wrestling fans being too intrigued by the ring, and i think it turns off potiental viewers. With the possibility of a 2 hour slot comming up, i think its the perfect time to end the 6 sides of crap.
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I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course.
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I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course. x2
No ring in the world will help them if they continue making the mistakes they've fallen into.
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its the thing you see the most on a wrestling show, so asthetically it does make a difference. it makes TNA look more gimmicked, childish and cartoonish. theres 'good different' (like wearing a tie with a cool pattern to work), then theres 'stupid different' (like wearing a clownsuit to work). theres no need for a six sided ring and it makes tna look foolish
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I think it is one of the many factors holding them back. There are numerous instances during matches that the wrestlers make mistakes because of the awkwardness of the ring. For example, a wrestler throws another into the turnbuckle and the other wrestler runs off as if they were thrown into the ropes. It can really hurt an otherwise decent match by causing too many missed spots.
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I agree with the 'Foolish Factor'... If TNA gets a 2 hour time slot, SQUARE ring, and a few more big names then they can compete, easy...
But I think the 'classic' wrestling fan tunes into TNA and sees the ring and gets turned off by it. There is no give to the ropes, it looks too gimmicky, it makes the ring look super small.
I think they need a classic ring. You dont see any indy promotions or any other orgnization in the 'fighting' world using a 6 sided ring. The UFC and other MMA groups are the only places where you don't find a squared circle...
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I dont think the ring matters.
The things that are holding TNA back are -
No 2 hour timeslot (yet)
Repeatedly pushing WWE rejects (with a few exceptions)
Lack of good booking
Lack of mainstream popularity
A lot of people dont even know about TNA
IMO, of course. Repped
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What is holding TNA back? I used to be able to show people who were either former wrestling fans or who never watched wrestling TNA and get a positive reaction. They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them.
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What is holding TNA back? I used to be able to show people who were either former wrestling fans or who never watched wrestling TNA and get a positive reaction. They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them. I tune in to watch the Steiners.
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Good post, BAB.
They need to increase production value and advertise more as well. When people think wrestling, they automatically think WWE. Hit some major marketing places and advertise the hell out of the product and as more people watch, word of mouth will begin to increase and the ratings will go up a bit. Also make fans care about the wrestlings, and so interested in the stories and matches that they don't turn away. TNA has failed to hook people when they had a golden opportunity to (Angles jump).
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.......They would watch Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Dutt, Williams, Shelley and all pull off incredibly acrobatic and exciting things. It would make them want to tune in again.
Guys like Tomko, Martin, the Dudleys, the Steiners and even Kurt Angle won't make someone tune in again. Former fans lost interest in them a long time ago and new fans were never attracted by them. so, all the X division stars can perform just as well in a four sided ring. if you dont think so, then watch early TNA shows or Indy shows with TNA talent.
TNA needs to have some reconizable names to be taken seriously. Im not for Test, Rikishi, Goldust, Albert and other legit deadweight wrestlers to join TNA, but guys like Matt Morgan, & Tomko have potiential and will eventually be big contributers to the product. Whereas wresters like Sting, Angle, Steiner, Christian the Dudleys and eventually RVD, need to be used in feuds to elevate younger stars. Theyve been big names in the wrestling world for 10+ years and are well known among the wrestling world. The way i see it, a Dudleys/Steiners feud really does nothing for TNA, on theotherhand a decent Dudleys/Shelly & Sabin feud could bring out the best in both Sabin and Shelley.
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What is the point of bringing in new guys when they don't properly use the talent they already have?
And even more so, what's anybodies motivation to wrestle for TNA? Kayfabed, all the wrestlers there should be concerned about winning a title. What's the point if all the belts are on one man? that's ridiculous. I like Kurt Angle, but him holding all the titles makes them not mean sh*t. People feud over the X Title for months, and he wins it in a straight up normal match, along with BOTH tag titles. wtf!?
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I think that part of their problem is the 6 sided ring. It was brought in for the X division, yet i recently read that they are considering scrapping that division. I think that if they are to be successful they need better booking, and they also need to make more of their own stars. As entertaining as the likes of Christian are, they are just WWE rejects
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I think that part of their problem is the 6 sided ring. It was brought in for the X division, yet i recently read that they are considering scrapping that division. I think that if they are to be successful they need better booking, and they also need to make more of their own stars. As entertaining as the likes of Christian are, they are just WWE rejects
the rumors were that they were going to unify the X with the World title, which isnt gonna happen.
Christian is a WWE reject because he chose to leave the WWE?
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It's one of the factors, the show as a whole sucks though... way too flashy, very stereotypical pro-wrestling show aimed at little kids.
I can't stand the ring though, it reminds me of the ghetto AAA or CMLL or whatever it is in Mexico with the six-sided ring and the tiny audience of 1,000 people.
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TNA Problems
Well TNA has many things holding them back, but let's be fair their wrestling matches are so much better than the wwe's...I've never liked the 6 sided ring, I thought it was just a way to make it different to the wwe and such...Either way it was a bad idea, since practicly every wrestler was trained in the squared circle as we say...but that's not the only thing holding TNA back...here's all the problems I can see with it:
1. 6 sided ring as we all said
2. 1 hour time slot (very shitty, needs to be 2 hours)
3. The network (sorry but spike is a bad network to be on, imo)
4. Poor advertising...barely any sort of advertisement
5. Giving the wrong guys the push (certan former wwe guys)
6. Booking is bad, do they only do shows in the south?
But I've noticed you guys have been tough on some of the former wwe guys. For the record, Christian is not a wwe reject. The WWE is a Christian reject lol...he left on his own terms...
As for Angle I do not consider him a reject, they suspended him, then fired him because he would fit injured and didn't want to stop, I do not blame the WWE for letting him go but he is no reject...I do not consider Tomko, the dudleys or rhino wwe rejects...the wwe fired rhino because he broke a tea kettle in a hotel...some the guys had to leave the WWE, they had no choice, because their talent was being wasted...
BTW, is rikishi actually with TNA? What about Goldust and Albert? I think I saw Goldust, but he's not a reject, his time has passed...that's different
As for RVD, I think they should put the belt on him a few times during his run in TNA, he deserves it...he never did get the push he deserved because of people like Steph and Triple H...he did at one point, but he screwed it up, that was his fault...
Ok read my reasons why TNA cannot advance once more...remember these problems are easily solved...with a bit of cash and time, TNA could be in SERIOUS competition with the WWE, but they cannot pull a wcw...they shouldn't live off former wwe talent...
P.S They should just kill the x division and make a mid card title, a light heavyweight title and womens title if they don't have one already
I think a light heavyweight division would be awesome in TNA, it worked well for WCW when they had guys like Pillman, Malenko, Guerrero etc...I would like to see this...
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the ring bothers me
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the ring bothers me I dont like it either....I had a friend that doesn't watch wrestling that saw it and he said it was "really ghey!"
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I dont like it either....I had a friend that doesn't watch wrestling that saw it and he said it was "really ghey!" They could of just made the squared circle, larger, instead of adding more sides & changing it now would be like admitting a failure. Perhaps they could have an alternative ring that is closer or like what some people want to see. I'm still saying it, I could make TNA better. I don't want to, but I could, for a price. :D