Question About Mixing Ephedrine and Red Line
Question About Mixing Ephedrine and Red Line
OK so the basics you need to know about me currently:
Weight: 270
Height: 5'9
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Current Exercise Routine: Medium intensity cardio on a stationary bike with medium resistance for approx. 1 hour a day, every day. It generally burns 650 cals. I'm also now starting to weight lift on the Rippetoe program.
Current Diet: Low carb. I try and eat 5 times a day and generally most of the meals are just protein shakes (zero carb protein) mixed with Glutabolic and Sesa Lean Oil.
Current Supps: A shit ton of stuff all recommended by one of my best friends who is a professional bodybuilder. Heres the list: CLA Fuel, Anabolic Pump, Phenogen, Humanofort, Glucophase XR, Supercissus Rx, SesaGrow, Ephedrine, Caffeine, and a Men's One a Day tablet for basic vitamins/minerals.
OK so here's my question. I currently take 25mg of Ephedrine in the morning when I wake up with my first round of supps. I also take 200 mg of caffeine and a single extra strength Excedrin (as per the ECA stack). I'm wondering if it would be ok if I started taking Red Line and/or upped the amount of Ephedrine I'm taking. My roommate, who is also dieting/exercising, takes 50mg of Ephedrine daily and claims he has no complaints. My friend (the bodybuilder) currently takes both ephedrine and red line (I believe he does 25mg E and a single serving of red line), but he's obviously in fantastic shape.
As I'm still a pretty fat guy do you think my heart will be able to handle the additional ephedrine/red line? I've been cardio training for a pretty solid 2.5 months now, so personally I think I've trained my heart sufficiently to start a heavier routine, but I don't want to do anything too risky.
As for my tolerance level, I literally can feel no difference when doing the ECA stack before my cardio. I mean, I see that I can ride longer and harder, but I don't get jittery or anything. I have a pretty high tolerance level for caffeine and stimulants in general (it takes pots of coffee to keep me awake).
Thanks for the help everyone, and please let me know if you need more info!
I don't think it's necessary, but I don't think it is going to kill you (I am not a doctor, but play one online). If you think you need more boost, I would take another dose of EC (the A is not needed) in the mid-afternoon. Only way to find out about the Red Line is to try, but I think it is probably overkill.
Good luck.
Over supplement much? Good lord.
As to your question, yes it's fine. Just the E + Burner though, not E+C+Burner.
Over supplement much? Good lord.
As to your question, yes it's fine. Just the E + Burner though, not E+C+Burner. I honestly don't know if it's too much or not. As I said I'm rather quite amateur at this. I weight lifted and exercised religiously throughout high school due to football, but never to a professional extent. Then I went off it for a few years and I'm back now and just doing basically whatever my bodybuilder friend recommends. He said all of those supps were pretty much necessary (or rather, necessary to his success, and as such he recommended them to me).
i think it should be technically ok to mix the redline with ephedrine, just dont take extra caffeine and the A in ECA is optional, nsaids have been shown to reduce muscle recovery (there was a discussion somewhere in the forums about it, if you run a search im sure you'll find it and the studies)
damn dude, spend more time in the gym, less time in the pill bottle. do you really think that these pills got your "pro" friend to where he is now?
edit: let me also add that many of the things you are taking do not make any sense. you are low carbing but taking glucophase???
you are taking bulking supplements and cutting supplements at the same time. you are asking about taking redline with ephedrine and you just started lifting? you are taking a vasoconstrictor and a vasolidator at the same time. and to top it all off you take just about the worst multi you can buy. but this isnt even the worst part. you dont eat any solid food. you just eat protein shakes. i know you want to lose weight, but do yourself a favor and do some research.
ps: cla is a ripoff as is most of the other crap you are taking.
Well I'd love to tell you that you're right and it's not working, but I've lost 65 lbs so far so I think I'm doing something right. Also, I know the gym is important, but I wasn't comfortable going until I had lost a sufficient amount of weight. I didn't want to keep bulking up at my starting weight.
EDIT: I guess I have a question then... I am willing to take advice as obviously I am not good at this and most people here will know more than me, so please tell me: Which of my supplements should I be taking? Which are efficient in cutting, as that is what I am trying to do right now? And I forgot to mention I'm also taking SesaThin Soft Gels. I appreciate everyone's help.
ephedra
I have just recently started training again after years of being gym shy!Yet again the world of supplements have me bemused and skeptical.Years ago l spent a fortune on supplements that had false ingredients readings and bogus claims.Now the supplement market seems to be in a even worse state of affairs,I firmly believe that the market is flooded with substandard protein products etc!At the moment my concerns are in regards to products containing ephedra.Currently I am trying three products-Yellow Bullet,Stack xtreme and Black Ice.From using ephedra in the past I know how it affects me after taking it but after taking these products(not all together) there is only one that gives me that feeling which leaves me to think that the other two have as much ephedra in them as a apple!More money down the drain! Has anyone else tryed these products and if so whats your experience? Where can I get some proper ephedrine and not the usual crap?What products out there really have ephedra in them?
I dont think we're really allowed to say where to get it, but I'll tell you that its commonly found in Broncaid or whatever the bronchitis medicine is.
Well I'd love to tell you that you're right and it's not working, but I've lost 65 lbs so far so I think I'm doing something right. Also, I know the gym is important, but I wasn't comfortable going until I had lost a sufficient amount of weight. I didn't want to keep bulking up at my starting weight.
EDIT: I guess I have a question then... I am willing to take advice as obviously I am not good at this and most people here will know more than me, so please tell me: Which of my supplements should I be taking? Which are efficient in cutting, as that is what I am trying to do right now? And I forgot to mention I'm also taking SesaThin Soft Gels. I appreciate everyone's help. Bro do some research on those supps you are taking, If you just cut your cals to 2500 with nothing but eca you would have dropped as much weight as you have. Save the other stuff for other times if for no other reason that stuff will really start to add up when you come around to your 2nd cycle, and then your 3rd, and then your 4th...Get to the gym and start lifting (muscle helps metabolism and fat loss) as well as mad cardio.
Oh and as to your question about red line and ephedra...Red line is a powerful caffeine supp. relative to other to other caffeine products. When I need a big boost I take red line with ephedra but generally I take it with a red bull.
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dont over take ephedrine it can lead to bad consequences. I live in chicago and ephedrine illegal in the state of illinois because people where taking over the recomended doeses of ephedra and were experiencing horrible side effects. A football player at northwestern died after taking ephdrine and going to practice. Also we had a guy at my guy who when temperaly deaf after overdosing on ephdrine
http://espn.go.com/abcsports/columns...5/1239959.html
dont over take ephedrine it can lead to bad consequences. I live in chicago and ephedrine illegal in the state of illinois because people where taking over the recomended doeses of ephedra and were experiencing horrible side effects. A football player at northwestern died after taking ephdrine and going to practice. Also we had a guy at my guy who when temperaly deaf after overdosing on ephdrine
http://espn.go.com/abcsports/columns...5/1239959.html Christ, I'm sick and tired of this. Ephedra isn't banned in your state or any state for that matter. It is banned, however, in actual weight loss formulas. Not too mention, the #1 reason for the banning in the U.S. was not because of Corey Stringer's or that baseball player's death, it was banned because it's one of the main ingredients in methamphetamine.
Ephedra is perfectly safe if not abused, end of story.
come on now, man. it's 100% possible to lean out and get a killer body without supps like that! I'm no doctor, but if youre at 5'9 and 270 lbs i really dont think you should be taking stimulants like that as it can be dangerous.
This stuff(weight loss) is pure SCIENCE, proven again and again. There is NO need for supplements whatsoever (unless of course your doctor prescribes something, which is unlikely though).
Sensible, healthy eating + Cardio + Weightlifting = Healthy in-shape body and mind!
hard work and patience are the keys here, not supplements
Christ, I'm sick and tired of this. Ephedra isn't banned in your state or any state for that matter. It is banned, however, in actual weight loss formulas. Not too mention, the #1 reason for the banning in the U.S. was not because of Corey Stringer's or that baseball player's death, it was banned because it's one of the main ingredients in methamphetamine.
Ephedra is perfectly safe if not abused, end of story. Really thats why read this article
http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/4872
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I also never said that ephdrine was dangerous at a normal level i send dont up your does over the recomended amount. Also i didnt reference corry stringer i reference rashed wheeler
Really thats why read this article
http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/4872 First thing I read about this article was the heading...
Illinois Lawmakers Look to Ban Ephedrine Also, they never said anything in that article about Primatine or Bronkaid, hell, or any asthma medication.
you head will explode.
actually, it might work but its super unhealthy for you. its overkill and i think there are safer, albeit slower ways of acheiving great fat loss
you head will explode.
actually, it might work but its super unhealthy for you. its overkill and i think there are safer, albeit slower ways of acheiving great fat loss No it's not overkill. In most fat burners, mind you I said most not all, it's a bunch of non-essential ingredients with 200 gs of caffeine. Now, instead of the EC Stack take the caffeine pill away and take a fat burner. It's exactly what they did when ephedra was legal in burners.
So I gotta bump this really quickly. I'm switching to the velocity diet, which of those supps that I'm taking do you guys recommend for that?
OK so the basics you need to know about me currently:
Weight: 270
Height: 5'9
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Current Exercise Routine: Medium intensity cardio on a stationary bike with medium resistance for approx. 1 hour a day, every day. It generally burns 650 cals. I'm also now starting to weight lift on the Rippetoe program.
Current Diet: Low carb. I try and eat 5 times a day and generally most of the meals are just protein shakes (zero carb protein) mixed with Glutabolic and Sesa Lean Oil.
Current Supps: A shit ton of stuff all recommended by one of my best friends who is a professional bodybuilder. Heres the list: CLA Fuel, Anabolic Pump, Phenogen, Humanofort, Glucophase XR, Supercissus Rx, SesaGrow, Ephedrine, Caffeine, and a Men's One a Day tablet for basic vitamins/minerals.
OK so here's my question. I currently take 25mg of Ephedrine in the morning when I wake up with my first round of supps. I also take 200 mg of caffeine and a single extra strength Excedrin (as per the ECA stack). I'm wondering if it would be ok if I started taking Red Line and/or upped the amount of Ephedrine I'm taking. My roommate, who is also dieting/exercising, takes 50mg of Ephedrine daily and claims he has no complaints. My friend (the bodybuilder) currently takes both ephedrine and red line (I believe he does 25mg E and a single serving of red line), but he's obviously in fantastic shape.
As I'm still a pretty fat guy do you think my heart will be able to handle the additional ephedrine/red line? I've been cardio training for a pretty solid 2.5 months now, so personally I think I've trained my heart sufficiently to start a heavier routine, but I don't want to do anything too risky.
As for my tolerance level, I literally can feel no difference when doing the ECA stack before my cardio. I mean, I see that I can ride longer and harder, but I don't get jittery or anything. I have a pretty high tolerance level for caffeine and stimulants in general (it takes pots of coffee to keep me awake).
Thanks for the help everyone, and please let me know if you need more info!
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I don't think it's necessary, but I don't think it is going to kill you (I am not a doctor, but play one online). If you think you need more boost, I would take another dose of EC (the A is not needed) in the mid-afternoon. Only way to find out about the Red Line is to try, but I think it is probably overkill.
Good luck.
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Over supplement much? Good lord.
As to your question, yes it's fine. Just the E + Burner though, not E+C+Burner.
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Over supplement much? Good lord.
As to your question, yes it's fine. Just the E + Burner though, not E+C+Burner. I honestly don't know if it's too much or not. As I said I'm rather quite amateur at this. I weight lifted and exercised religiously throughout high school due to football, but never to a professional extent. Then I went off it for a few years and I'm back now and just doing basically whatever my bodybuilder friend recommends. He said all of those supps were pretty much necessary (or rather, necessary to his success, and as such he recommended them to me).
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i think it should be technically ok to mix the redline with ephedrine, just dont take extra caffeine and the A in ECA is optional, nsaids have been shown to reduce muscle recovery (there was a discussion somewhere in the forums about it, if you run a search im sure you'll find it and the studies)
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damn dude, spend more time in the gym, less time in the pill bottle. do you really think that these pills got your "pro" friend to where he is now?
edit: let me also add that many of the things you are taking do not make any sense. you are low carbing but taking glucophase???
you are taking bulking supplements and cutting supplements at the same time. you are asking about taking redline with ephedrine and you just started lifting? you are taking a vasoconstrictor and a vasolidator at the same time. and to top it all off you take just about the worst multi you can buy. but this isnt even the worst part. you dont eat any solid food. you just eat protein shakes. i know you want to lose weight, but do yourself a favor and do some research.
ps: cla is a ripoff as is most of the other crap you are taking.
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Well I'd love to tell you that you're right and it's not working, but I've lost 65 lbs so far so I think I'm doing something right. Also, I know the gym is important, but I wasn't comfortable going until I had lost a sufficient amount of weight. I didn't want to keep bulking up at my starting weight.
EDIT: I guess I have a question then... I am willing to take advice as obviously I am not good at this and most people here will know more than me, so please tell me: Which of my supplements should I be taking? Which are efficient in cutting, as that is what I am trying to do right now? And I forgot to mention I'm also taking SesaThin Soft Gels. I appreciate everyone's help.
Answer:
ephedra
I have just recently started training again after years of being gym shy!Yet again the world of supplements have me bemused and skeptical.Years ago l spent a fortune on supplements that had false ingredients readings and bogus claims.Now the supplement market seems to be in a even worse state of affairs,I firmly believe that the market is flooded with substandard protein products etc!At the moment my concerns are in regards to products containing ephedra.Currently I am trying three products-Yellow Bullet,Stack xtreme and Black Ice.From using ephedra in the past I know how it affects me after taking it but after taking these products(not all together) there is only one that gives me that feeling which leaves me to think that the other two have as much ephedra in them as a apple!More money down the drain! Has anyone else tryed these products and if so whats your experience? Where can I get some proper ephedrine and not the usual crap?What products out there really have ephedra in them?
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I dont think we're really allowed to say where to get it, but I'll tell you that its commonly found in Broncaid or whatever the bronchitis medicine is.
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Well I'd love to tell you that you're right and it's not working, but I've lost 65 lbs so far so I think I'm doing something right. Also, I know the gym is important, but I wasn't comfortable going until I had lost a sufficient amount of weight. I didn't want to keep bulking up at my starting weight.
EDIT: I guess I have a question then... I am willing to take advice as obviously I am not good at this and most people here will know more than me, so please tell me: Which of my supplements should I be taking? Which are efficient in cutting, as that is what I am trying to do right now? And I forgot to mention I'm also taking SesaThin Soft Gels. I appreciate everyone's help. Bro do some research on those supps you are taking, If you just cut your cals to 2500 with nothing but eca you would have dropped as much weight as you have. Save the other stuff for other times if for no other reason that stuff will really start to add up when you come around to your 2nd cycle, and then your 3rd, and then your 4th...Get to the gym and start lifting (muscle helps metabolism and fat loss) as well as mad cardio.
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Oh and as to your question about red line and ephedra...Red line is a powerful caffeine supp. relative to other to other caffeine products. When I need a big boost I take red line with ephedra but generally I take it with a red bull.
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dont over take ephedrine it can lead to bad consequences. I live in chicago and ephedrine illegal in the state of illinois because people where taking over the recomended doeses of ephedra and were experiencing horrible side effects. A football player at northwestern died after taking ephdrine and going to practice. Also we had a guy at my guy who when temperaly deaf after overdosing on ephdrine
http://espn.go.com/abcsports/columns...5/1239959.html
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dont over take ephedrine it can lead to bad consequences. I live in chicago and ephedrine illegal in the state of illinois because people where taking over the recomended doeses of ephedra and were experiencing horrible side effects. A football player at northwestern died after taking ephdrine and going to practice. Also we had a guy at my guy who when temperaly deaf after overdosing on ephdrine
http://espn.go.com/abcsports/columns...5/1239959.html Christ, I'm sick and tired of this. Ephedra isn't banned in your state or any state for that matter. It is banned, however, in actual weight loss formulas. Not too mention, the #1 reason for the banning in the U.S. was not because of Corey Stringer's or that baseball player's death, it was banned because it's one of the main ingredients in methamphetamine.
Ephedra is perfectly safe if not abused, end of story.
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come on now, man. it's 100% possible to lean out and get a killer body without supps like that! I'm no doctor, but if youre at 5'9 and 270 lbs i really dont think you should be taking stimulants like that as it can be dangerous.
This stuff(weight loss) is pure SCIENCE, proven again and again. There is NO need for supplements whatsoever (unless of course your doctor prescribes something, which is unlikely though).
Sensible, healthy eating + Cardio + Weightlifting = Healthy in-shape body and mind!
hard work and patience are the keys here, not supplements
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Christ, I'm sick and tired of this. Ephedra isn't banned in your state or any state for that matter. It is banned, however, in actual weight loss formulas. Not too mention, the #1 reason for the banning in the U.S. was not because of Corey Stringer's or that baseball player's death, it was banned because it's one of the main ingredients in methamphetamine.
Ephedra is perfectly safe if not abused, end of story. Really thats why read this article
http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/4872
Answer:
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I also never said that ephdrine was dangerous at a normal level i send dont up your does over the recomended amount. Also i didnt reference corry stringer i reference rashed wheeler
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Really thats why read this article
http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/4872 First thing I read about this article was the heading...
Illinois Lawmakers Look to Ban Ephedrine Also, they never said anything in that article about Primatine or Bronkaid, hell, or any asthma medication.
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you head will explode.
actually, it might work but its super unhealthy for you. its overkill and i think there are safer, albeit slower ways of acheiving great fat loss
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you head will explode.
actually, it might work but its super unhealthy for you. its overkill and i think there are safer, albeit slower ways of acheiving great fat loss No it's not overkill. In most fat burners, mind you I said most not all, it's a bunch of non-essential ingredients with 200 gs of caffeine. Now, instead of the EC Stack take the caffeine pill away and take a fat burner. It's exactly what they did when ephedra was legal in burners.
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So I gotta bump this really quickly. I'm switching to the velocity diet, which of those supps that I'm taking do you guys recommend for that?