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For the LIBERALS on here!
Hey guys I was just wondering how many of you can point out what is wrong with my political beliefs.
I believe in a free market, a market not influence nor controled by the government. A market where if you have the motivation and the drive you can strive to succeed and better the market and yourself.
I believe in free media, a media that does not blind the people of what is really happening in the world, just because the government doesnt want them to see.
I believe that people who have done things wrong should be punished, from the smallest of crimes to the worst of crimes and be punished equaly to what the action they commited. I believe that some criminals can not be rehabilitated.
I believe my country is not perfect but it is a great country non the less, and I would stand by it no matter what they did because I know that in the end they are surving me and not themselves.
I believe controling inflation is more important than controling unemployment, because we shouldn't punish people that are working and contributing to society.
I believe if you see away you can better yourself whether it be by improving your relations, your people skills, or gaining wealth you should take it, because someone else might beat you to it and not use it in a correct way.
I believe in a even tax rate no matter how much you are making. If you are making $100 000.00 a year is it fair to tax you 50% so you are now only living with $50 000.00, when someone making $65 000.00 is being taxed 35% and now is living with $42 250? Meanwhile the person making $100 000 went to medical school for 7 years and worked their way up to that position, while the person making $65 000 a year finish highschool and landed themselves an easy job where their parent works? I think if we have an even tax rate of lets say 20% off everyones annual income, the country could function and everyone would be happy.
I believe that if you are able and willing to pay for better services than these services should be offered to you. If I am willing to pay 2cents more on every litre of gas for someone to pump it for me isnt that alright? And if I am willing to pay my own healthcare bills and pay my doctor isnt that alright if I think it is beneficial?
I believe that morally society has gone off course, and has become selfish. We no longer no our neighbors, I know if I ask alot of people what their neighbors name, relgion, nationality, and age is not many people would be able to answer. Also we are no longer thinking about others, if we accidently get pregnant, it is our decision, if the woman does not want the baby, the man nor the child has a say in it, she can have an abortion just like that. While we just took the life of a child, why not let the child grow to an age where he or she can make a mature decision and ask he or she then whether they want to live?
I believe that if something cannot survive on a commercial basis then there is no need or demand for that thing to be there, wether it be a zoo, museum, or a hockey arena. No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.
I believe all persons have equal rights, but some people's rights conflict with other people's rights and thus it is better if people stick to their own kind.
I believe if you have the ability to work, whether it be as a doctor, a bricklayer, or work at a gas station and you refuse to you should not have entitlement to social support.
I believe that morality stems from religion and without some shred of religion you cannot be moral. This does not mean you have to be a practicing Christian, or Muslim or Taoist but you must have some form of religion in your life.
I believe that even though it is a common thing, I believe that sex outside of marriage is usualy immoral. Also marriage is suppost to be the joining of a man and woman in the eyes of god and not for any other reason. This does not mean the two men or two women cannot live in a common law, under a common law agreement which in the eyes of the government is the same as a marriage and filed the same way.
I also believe that it is great that society is open about many things, including sex, culture, politics but it is going to far.

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I believe my country is not perfect but it is a great country non the less, and I would stand by it no matter what they did because I know that in the end they are surving me and not themselves. I'm not a "liberal" so I agree with a lot of what you said but not this one. Why do you assume that the American government could never do anything self serving?

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I'm not a "liberal" so I agree with a lot of what you said but not this one. Why do you assume that the American government could never do anything self serving? Well I am not American for one?
Also, I know what alot of people are saying about America and thier war on terror, it is for oil? Well, is this because Bush needs 100000 gallons of oil to fuel is car no it is for the world and more importantly his nation, so he is serving you. Also I cant think of anything huge the American goverment has done that has not had good intentions to serve their people.

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i only need to address one belief
your belief that liberals are against all this
my response: no

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Well I am not American for one? ahaha, Yay for me paying attention! Well then why would you assume the Canadian Government could never do anything self serving?

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i only need to address one belief
your belief that liberals are against all this
my response: no Well, I never said that did I? I asked them if they could point out what is wrong with my political beliefs, and if they can I'd like to hear it if they can't then I think they should reconsider what side of the politcal spectrum they are on.

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I believe that morally society has gone off course, and has become selfish. We no longer no our neighbors, I know if I ask alot of people what their neighbors name, relgion, nationality, and age is not many people would be able to answer. Also we are no longer thinking about others, if we accidently get pregnant, it is our decision, if the woman does not want the baby, the man nor the child has a say in it, she can have an abortion just like that. While we just took the life of a child, why not let the child grow to an age where he or she can make a mature decision and ask he or she then whether they want to live? You were doing SO well up until this point.
I believe if you have the ability to work, whether it be as a doctor, a bricklayer, or work at a gas station and you refuse to you should not have entitlement to social support. Ayn Rand would love you.
I believe that morality stems from religion and without some shred of religion you cannot be moral. This does not mean you have to be a practicing Christian, or Muslim or Taoist but you must have some form of religion in your life. I have no gods and and no religion. I take snippets from a few philosophies, but I would not call them "religion." Still, I keep my sense of morality. Sorry pal, we don't need fairies telling us how to live.
I believe that even though it is a common thing, I believe that sex outside of marriage is usualy immoral. Also marriage is suppost to be the joining of a man and woman in the eyes of god and not for any other reason. This does not mean the two men or two women cannot live in a common law, under a common law agreement which in the eyes of the government is the same as a marriage and filed the same way. I don't give a flying frak about how other people choose to live, provided they are not infringing on the rights of others. If you wanna have sex with someone you aren't married to...have at it. Morality is soooo 19th century.
I also believe that it is great that society is open about many things, including sex, culture, politics but it is going to far. I see no reason to censor open inquiry and thought. If something makes you uncomfortable, you can either cry about it or suck it up and ignore it. Not that hard.
The difference between you and I lies in our social views. Your economic policies make sense. At least in theory. I don't see why the government should intrude into individual affairs, though. Morality, once imposed on a population, quickly becomes the tyranny of the majority.

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ahaha. My bad! Well then why would you assume the Canadian Government could never do anything self serving? Well this is simply, the Canadian government is not one person, it is not a communist state run by one man, so nothing the government could do would directly and souly help them, so why would they try. With such a large government the only thing they can do that is self serving is stay in power, and the only way to do this is by keeping the population happy.
In a communist dictator state, a country could go to war and pillage and make itself richer and the dictator with supreme control would keep this wealth but in Canada, the wealth would go to good causes benefiting humanity wheather it be by going to social causes or lowering taxes.

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You were doing SO well up until this point.
Ayn Rand would love you.
I have no gods and and no religion. I take snippets from a few philosophies, but I would not call them "religion." Still, I keep my sense of morality. Sorry pal, we don't need fairies telling us how to live.
I don't give a flying frak about how other people choose to live, provided they are not infringing on the rights of others. If you wanna have sex with someone you aren't married to...have at it. Morality is soooo 19th century.
I see no reason to censor open inquiry and thought. If something makes you uncomfortable, you can either cry about it or suck it up and ignore it. Not that hard.
The difference between you and I lies in our social views. Your economic policies make sense. At least in theory. I don't see why the government should intrude into individual affairs, though. Morality, once imposed on a population, quickly becomes the tyranny of the majority. Point one: How so?
Point three: You cannot be the judge of how moral you are, I believe that society tells how moral each individual is.
Point four: Well lets say that I am a 32 year old women and my thing is to have sex with 16 year old boys, they are past the age of consent and thus can make their own decision. No lets say I offer the boy gifts, and now he has sex with me, this is my thing. Me and the boy are happy, but now the boys mother finds out about it and is horrified, she is upset and she feels her rights are being infridged. What do we do? Stop my rights, or the mothers rights?
Point five: I think we should put graphic images of people cutting people up on cable tv during prime time. Are you going to sit by and let this happen?
I used very unrealistic and far out examples but I needed to to get my point across, I am not being silly, I am taking this seriously.

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Well, I never said that did I? I asked them if they could point out what is wrong with my political beliefs, and if they can I'd like to hear it if they can't then I think they should reconsider what side of the politcal spectrum they are on. no, buddy. the fact that you call out liberals specifically then state your opinions means that you believe that they believe in the opposite

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no, buddy. the fact that you call out liberals specifically then state your opinions means that you believe that they believe in the opposite And by my opinions I wrote, and if the people are set in stone pure liberals then their opinions should be different than mine. No one that is from 1-10 a 10 on a scale of how liberal you are will agree with my points.

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Point one: How so? *Shrugs*
I'm about as Pro-Choice as they come. From there, you can extrapolate my views.
Point three: You cannot be the judge of how moral you are, I believe that society tells how moral each individual is. How so? Do you mean society defines its own morality? If so, that contradicts your statement that morality comes from a higher source. I thought you were a Natural Law proponent. I'm not trying to be offensive, just asking for clarification.
Point four: Well lets say that I am a 32 year old women and my thing is to have sex with 16 year old boys, they are past the age of consent and thus can make their own decision. No lets say I offer the boy gifts, and now he has sex with me, this is my thing. Me and the boy are happy, but now the boys mother finds out about it and is horrified, she is upset and she feels her rights are being infridged. What do we do? Stop my rights, or the mothers rights? If it is past the age of consent, what rights on the part of the mother are being violated? She may not agree with the kid's decision, but it is out of her hands. I see no grounds for "rights" violation based on the scenario you outlined.
Point five: I think we should put graphic images of people cutting people up on cable tv during prime time. Are you going to sit by and let this happen? I probably would not watch it. However, this goes back to your ideas on commerce. If people are offended, they will not watch said program. Ratings hit the toilet, advertising money withers, and the station goes out of business. Media has to keep up with the prevailing mores of society, especially in areas of greater exposure. I have no problem with that.

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Turning politics into a left vs right or us vs them proposition is never a good idea. I can come up with a list of things that make that implicitly demonises the right. For instance "I believe that a person's success should not be determined by their parents' income". Are we any better off? Is this a constructive dialogue that will better our country?

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I'm about as Pro-Choice as they come. From there, you can extrapolate my views.
How so? Do you mean society defines its own morality? If so, that contradicts your statement that morality comes from a higher source. I thought you were a Natural Law proponent. I'm not trying to be offensive, just asking for clarification.
No I mean you as a person cannot be a judge of your own morality because your opinions can be clouded, if we go by what is traditionaly moral you may not be moral, which does no neccasarily mean you are not a nice person.
If it is past the age of consent, what rights on the part of the mother are being violated? She may not agree with the kid's decision, but it is out of her hands. I see no grounds for "rights" violation based on the scenario you outlined.
Under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Part 1 - Second 15 - Extension 32,
Under extenduating circumstances does a parents/gaurdian have rights to monitor and change the sexual context of a childs life under the age of 18.
I probably would not watch it. However, this goes back to your ideas on commerce. If people are offended, they will not watch said program. Ratings hit the toilet, advertising money withers, and the station goes out of business. Media has to keep up with the prevailing mores of society, especially in areas of greater exposure. I have no problem with that.
But what happens if your children flick to it by accident

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You make some pretty good points...and yes, liberals are against a lot of what you said.

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Well this is simply, the Canadian government is not one person, it is not a communist state run by one man, so nothing the government could do would directly and souly help them, so why would they try. With such a large government the only thing they can do that is self serving is stay in power, and the only way to do this is by keeping the population happy.
In a communist dictator state, a country could go to war and pillage and make itself richer and the dictator with supreme control would keep this wealth but in Canada, the wealth would go to good causes benefiting humanity wheather it be by going to social causes or lowering taxes. Elected officials don't necessarily have to do what's best for the people in order to stay in power, they just have to make the population think that they are doing best for them. Like what happens here in the states a lot.

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Elected officials don't necessarily have to do what's best for the people in order to stay in power, they just have to make the population think that they are doing best for them. Like what happens here in the states a lot. What has the American Government done that has not benefited you?

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What the...
I believe that if something cannot survive on a commercial basis then there is no need or demand for that thing to be there, whether it be a zoo, museum, or a hockey arena. No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding. Nah. I don't agree with this, before you know it will seep into other areas and everything will be weighed on the economic consequences of that action.
I believe if you see away you can better yourself whether it be by improving your relations, your people skills, or gaining wealth you should take it, because someone else might beat you to it and not use it in a correct way. Nope.
That's all I'm responding to the rest wasn't worth it.

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What has the American Government done that has not benefited you? Patriot Act, Healthy Forests Initiative, Clear Skies Act..

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i definitely disagree that religion is necessary for morality. thats such an absurd idea that i dont really know how i could effectively debunk it

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I believe that morality stems from religion and without some shred of religion you cannot be moral. This does not mean you have to be a practicing Christian, or Muslim or Taoist but you must have some form of religion in your life.
I believe that even though it is a common thing, I believe that sex outside of marriage is usualy immoral. Also marriage is suppost to be the joining of a man and woman in the eyes of god and not for any other reason. This does not mean the two men or two women cannot live in a common law, under a common law agreement which in the eyes of the government is the same as a marriage and filed the same way.
I also believe that it is great that society is open about many things, including sex, culture, politics but it is going to far. I agreed completely until you got to religion.

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I believe that if something cannot survive on a commercial basis then there is no need or demand for that thing to be there, wether it be a zoo, museum, or a hockey arena. No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.
That's a sad world you live in. You wouldn't have half the literature, their would be no holly books, no great art, no great architecture, you probably wouldn't have the internet... you sure as shit wouldn't have clean water or a safe food supply. For all the shity things that happen when WE THE PEOPLE get together... there are so many positive things that get over looked that the " Free Market" could never produce.

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Choice and so-called conflict with others "rights"
Nobody is born a religion, even the catholic church tells us that you make a choice to believe. So when somebody screams that 2 men or 2 women are threatening and unnatural, truthfully religion is unnatural. It has been used to explain what was unknown, no different than voodoo.
I am so sick of people acting like religion is a natural thing, why is a choice (religion) protected, but something the way someone is born is not. A homosexual may never act on his feelings, but he's still a homosexual, no different than a brown-eyed person. But, if it's inconvenient, such as a presidential election, a protected catagory can change it's stripes to fit the audience. Hypocrites.





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