Want to keep gains through XC season + possibly gain, some ?'s
Want to keep gains through XC season + possibly gain, some ?'s
Hey guys
I was born to be a XC runner. Dad ran marathons when he was younger, ran Boston Marathon, NY, others. Mother has ran since highschool running 6-12 miles 3-4 days a week until now where the poundage hurts her too much.
Aunt runs marathons to this day and is almost 50.
Anyways, that leaves me. I am just a highschool XC runner. Don't LOVE running but do like it because it is the first sport that I was ever GOOD at. Anyways, it doesn't give me the physique I want in life (want to be an amateur bodybuilder when I grow up) and the XC season is coming up again.
I haven't really trained this summer because...well...it would hinder my goals of body-building.
Anyways, nuff' talk, season is starting up again. I go back the 1st to school for pre-season training of 2 a days (basically 2 5 mile runs a day, one in morning, one at night) Then the season starts with a training schedule of this:
Mondays - Long easy run, 5-10 miles at own pace
Tuesdays - Fast intervals, 2-3 miles in total but at half mile almost sprint like pace of 5:30 minute mile pace, break for one minute, repeat
Wednesdays - Recovery run, 4-7 miles at own pace
Thursdays - Slow intervals, 2-5 miles at a controlled heart rate run / walk (Run 1/4 mile, jog/speed walk 1/4 mile)
Fridays - 1 mile run, 5-10 minutes of sprint intervals, 1 hour meditation
Saturdays - 5k race
Sundays - Rest
I want to keep lifting to keep the 20lbs I worked so F**KING HARD FOR these past 7 months (not ectomorph, just recovering from Eating Disorder)
Anyways, is there any way I could keep lifting through this schedule? Such as after my run consume immediatley dextrose and whey hyrolysate as I start lifting routine (Such as after practice ends, begin drinking Recovery drink while doing lifting routine, then after lifting go to dinner?)
Or should I just "skip" Friday practices (I'm sure coach'll understand), lift on Fridays, 1-2 hours after practice on Wednesdays (practice on wednesdays is at 1:30 instead of 3:30) and then lift on my off days being Sunday?
Just need some advice here :)
Also...I take it I would have to consume a LOT of carbs....only thing is I am kinda carb-phobic. Anyway I could "center" carbs around training / morning?
Thanks guys
Hey guys
I was born to be a XC runner. Dad ran marathons when he was younger, ran Boston Marathon, NY, others. Mother has ran since highschool running 6-12 miles 3-4 days a week until now where the poundage hurts her too much.
Aunt runs marathons to this day and is almost 50.
Anyways, that leaves me. I am just a highschool XC runner. Don't LOVE running but do like it because it is the first sport that I was ever GOOD at. Anyways, it doesn't give me the physique I want in life (want to be an amateur bodybuilder when I grow up) and the XC season is coming up again.
I haven't really trained this summer because...well...it would hinder my goals of body-building.
Anyways, nuff' talk, season is starting up again. I go back the 1st to school for pre-season training of 2 a days (basically 2 5 mile runs a day, one in morning, one at night) Then the season starts with a training schedule of this:
Mondays - Long easy run, 5-10 miles at own pace
Tuesdays - Fast intervals, 2-3 miles in total but at half mile almost sprint like pace of 5:30 minute mile pace, break for one minute, repeat
Wednesdays - Recovery run, 4-7 miles at own pace
Thursdays - Slow intervals, 2-5 miles at a controlled heart rate run / walk (Run 1/4 mile, jog/speed walk 1/4 mile)
Fridays - 1 mile run, 5-10 minutes of sprint intervals, 1 hour meditation
Saturdays - 5k race
Sundays - Rest
I want to keep lifting to keep the 20lbs I worked so F**KING HARD FOR these past 7 months (not ectomorph, just recovering from Eating Disorder)
Anyways, is there any way I could keep lifting through this schedule? Such as after my run consume immediatley dextrose and whey hyrolysate as I start lifting routine (Such as after practice ends, begin drinking Recovery drink while doing lifting routine, then after lifting go to dinner?)
Or should I just "skip" Friday practices (I'm sure coach'll understand), lift on Fridays, 1-2 hours after practice on Wednesdays (practice on wednesdays is at 1:30 instead of 3:30) and then lift on my off days being Sunday?
Just need some advice here :)
Also...I take it I would have to consume a LOT of carbs....only thing is I am kinda carb-phobic. Anyway I could "center" carbs around training / morning?
Thanks guys dude if your talking about gaining weight on a schedule like that AND LIFTING? forget your carb-phobia and eat like its your job. that is the only way you can even think about maintaining, let alone bulking.
btw i would watch out for overtraining with running that much and lifting, if you start feeling dizzy or overly tired during the day or you just plain have no energy, youll have to give up the lifting (or the running) or else youll wind up hurting yourself.
Ok
Well I can't give up running. I would let down my team, my parents and everyone.
What days should I lift and how to keep the muscle mass I have accumulated thus far? I realize I will have to eat a lot to maintain my weight but don't I have to lift often to keep my muscles stimulated to make them stay the same size?
[quote=I3uilt;69180623]dude if your talking about gaining weight on a schedule like that AND LIFTING? forget your carb-phobia and eat like its your job. that is the only way you can even think about maintaining, let alone bulking.
I agree. Next week I'm running my second marathon. my 16 week training ends next week. I lost 35 pounds during the 15 weeks so far. Fat and muscle.
For the last 2-3 weeks i've "finally" stopped losing weight. I eat as much as I can. I do try to stay with "healthy" foods, just bigger quantities. But getting 4000+ to maintain my current wieght( and not loose more) is hard on healthy food all the time.
I know I didnt follow my own advice will training. Which i think is you should keep your protein high like always, and "unlimited" carbs and fats. You need a very high calorie count.
Ok
Well I can't give up running. I would let down my team, my parents and everyone.
a part of growing up is making decisions based on what YOU want, what your likes and dislikes are. yes, there are times to suck it up and do it, but IMO a sport is something you should play based on your own feelings towards it and what you want out of it.
..my passion for golf was waning and i knew i didnt have any time for it my senior year with a job and with college stuff, so i didnt play last year. ya, people were sad, but my year was a lot less stressful and full of things i wanted to be doing with my time.
i cycle and i eat shit loads of carbs! you might have to deviate form your preferred foods try some cereal instead of oats for instance, please dont worry about cabrs are you more scared of carbs or of loosing your mass?
you do NOT need to be carb-phobic!
I would be taking in high gi cabrs (waxy maize if you feel like spoiling yourself) before and after running, along with aminos, but make sure the protein does not dehydrate you.
waxy maize vs honey on toast or cereal hmmm im torn no really its a tough choice....
waxy maize vs honey on toast or cereal hmmm im torn no really its a tough choice....
Hey guys
I was born to be a XC runner. Dad ran marathons when he was younger, ran Boston Marathon, NY, others. Mother has ran since highschool running 6-12 miles 3-4 days a week until now where the poundage hurts her too much.
Aunt runs marathons to this day and is almost 50.
Anyways, that leaves me. I am just a highschool XC runner. Don't LOVE running but do like it because it is the first sport that I was ever GOOD at. Anyways, it doesn't give me the physique I want in life (want to be an amateur bodybuilder when I grow up) and the XC season is coming up again.
I haven't really trained this summer because...well...it would hinder my goals of body-building.
Anyways, nuff' talk, season is starting up again. I go back the 1st to school for pre-season training of 2 a days (basically 2 5 mile runs a day, one in morning, one at night) Then the season starts with a training schedule of this:
Mondays - Long easy run, 5-10 miles at own pace
Tuesdays - Fast intervals, 2-3 miles in total but at half mile almost sprint like pace of 5:30 minute mile pace, break for one minute, repeat
Wednesdays - Recovery run, 4-7 miles at own pace
Thursdays - Slow intervals, 2-5 miles at a controlled heart rate run / walk (Run 1/4 mile, jog/speed walk 1/4 mile)
Fridays - 1 mile run, 5-10 minutes of sprint intervals, 1 hour meditation
Saturdays - 5k race
Sundays - Rest
I want to keep lifting to keep the 20lbs I worked so F**KING HARD FOR these past 7 months (not ectomorph, just recovering from Eating Disorder)
Anyways, is there any way I could keep lifting through this schedule? Such as after my run consume immediatley dextrose and whey hyrolysate as I start lifting routine (Such as after practice ends, begin drinking Recovery drink while doing lifting routine, then after lifting go to dinner?)
Or should I just "skip" Friday practices (I'm sure coach'll understand), lift on Fridays, 1-2 hours after practice on Wednesdays (practice on wednesdays is at 1:30 instead of 3:30) and then lift on my off days being Sunday?
Just need some advice here :)
Also...I take it I would have to consume a LOT of carbs....only thing is I am kinda carb-phobic. Anyway I could "center" carbs around training / morning?
Thanks guys
Answer:
Hey guys
I was born to be a XC runner. Dad ran marathons when he was younger, ran Boston Marathon, NY, others. Mother has ran since highschool running 6-12 miles 3-4 days a week until now where the poundage hurts her too much.
Aunt runs marathons to this day and is almost 50.
Anyways, that leaves me. I am just a highschool XC runner. Don't LOVE running but do like it because it is the first sport that I was ever GOOD at. Anyways, it doesn't give me the physique I want in life (want to be an amateur bodybuilder when I grow up) and the XC season is coming up again.
I haven't really trained this summer because...well...it would hinder my goals of body-building.
Anyways, nuff' talk, season is starting up again. I go back the 1st to school for pre-season training of 2 a days (basically 2 5 mile runs a day, one in morning, one at night) Then the season starts with a training schedule of this:
Mondays - Long easy run, 5-10 miles at own pace
Tuesdays - Fast intervals, 2-3 miles in total but at half mile almost sprint like pace of 5:30 minute mile pace, break for one minute, repeat
Wednesdays - Recovery run, 4-7 miles at own pace
Thursdays - Slow intervals, 2-5 miles at a controlled heart rate run / walk (Run 1/4 mile, jog/speed walk 1/4 mile)
Fridays - 1 mile run, 5-10 minutes of sprint intervals, 1 hour meditation
Saturdays - 5k race
Sundays - Rest
I want to keep lifting to keep the 20lbs I worked so F**KING HARD FOR these past 7 months (not ectomorph, just recovering from Eating Disorder)
Anyways, is there any way I could keep lifting through this schedule? Such as after my run consume immediatley dextrose and whey hyrolysate as I start lifting routine (Such as after practice ends, begin drinking Recovery drink while doing lifting routine, then after lifting go to dinner?)
Or should I just "skip" Friday practices (I'm sure coach'll understand), lift on Fridays, 1-2 hours after practice on Wednesdays (practice on wednesdays is at 1:30 instead of 3:30) and then lift on my off days being Sunday?
Just need some advice here :)
Also...I take it I would have to consume a LOT of carbs....only thing is I am kinda carb-phobic. Anyway I could "center" carbs around training / morning?
Thanks guys dude if your talking about gaining weight on a schedule like that AND LIFTING? forget your carb-phobia and eat like its your job. that is the only way you can even think about maintaining, let alone bulking.
btw i would watch out for overtraining with running that much and lifting, if you start feeling dizzy or overly tired during the day or you just plain have no energy, youll have to give up the lifting (or the running) or else youll wind up hurting yourself.
Answer:
Ok
Well I can't give up running. I would let down my team, my parents and everyone.
What days should I lift and how to keep the muscle mass I have accumulated thus far? I realize I will have to eat a lot to maintain my weight but don't I have to lift often to keep my muscles stimulated to make them stay the same size?
Answer:
[quote=I3uilt;69180623]dude if your talking about gaining weight on a schedule like that AND LIFTING? forget your carb-phobia and eat like its your job. that is the only way you can even think about maintaining, let alone bulking.
I agree. Next week I'm running my second marathon. my 16 week training ends next week. I lost 35 pounds during the 15 weeks so far. Fat and muscle.
For the last 2-3 weeks i've "finally" stopped losing weight. I eat as much as I can. I do try to stay with "healthy" foods, just bigger quantities. But getting 4000+ to maintain my current wieght( and not loose more) is hard on healthy food all the time.
I know I didnt follow my own advice will training. Which i think is you should keep your protein high like always, and "unlimited" carbs and fats. You need a very high calorie count.
Answer:
Ok
Well I can't give up running. I would let down my team, my parents and everyone.
a part of growing up is making decisions based on what YOU want, what your likes and dislikes are. yes, there are times to suck it up and do it, but IMO a sport is something you should play based on your own feelings towards it and what you want out of it.
..my passion for golf was waning and i knew i didnt have any time for it my senior year with a job and with college stuff, so i didnt play last year. ya, people were sad, but my year was a lot less stressful and full of things i wanted to be doing with my time.
Answer:
i cycle and i eat shit loads of carbs! you might have to deviate form your preferred foods try some cereal instead of oats for instance, please dont worry about cabrs are you more scared of carbs or of loosing your mass?
Answer:
you do NOT need to be carb-phobic!
I would be taking in high gi cabrs (waxy maize if you feel like spoiling yourself) before and after running, along with aminos, but make sure the protein does not dehydrate you.
Answer:
waxy maize vs honey on toast or cereal hmmm im torn no really its a tough choice....
Answer:
waxy maize vs honey on toast or cereal hmmm im torn no really its a tough choice....