Should I join the military?
Should I join the military?
Lately I've been unsure about what I want to do once college comes as far as major and where I even want to go. I don't want to be average. I mean I hear all of my friends going for the same shit I'm looking into, but I never hear any of them saying "I'm going to become a marine." Just seems more prestige to me and that I'd actually be doing something for others besides myself.
They say it pays for college, when do you get to go to school if your active?
Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it.
Im actually considering the Air Force once i graduate college this December because i have no clue what i want to do....
Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years?
If you go active duty, you can go to school when your time is up. Thats what I'm doing. You'll be much more mature when you finally do go to school, and taking classes will be a breeze.
Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years? I have no idea how it works. I'd talk to a recruiter if you want to learn the specifics about how much money you could earn toward college, how it would work, when you could take classes, etc.
But my advice still remains: college first, then decide between civilian career or military career.
Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years? I have no idea how it works. I'd talk to a recruiter if you want to learn the specifics about how much money you could earn toward college, how it would work, when you could take classes, etc.
But my advice still remains: college first, then decide between civilian career or military career. If you go in after getting a degree won't they offer to pay a portion of your college loans? Seems like it would be a smart thing to do on their part.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. Not me! I joined to avoid college and I don't regret a minute of it. Sometimes I wished I had went to college but then I wouldn't have all the great memories of my time in the military. I definitley wouldn't have been to all the places I have or met the friends that I have. When I joined I didn't even want a degree or nothing but now I'm about to get my associates and then start working on my bachelors. It's all what you make of it. If you're looking to actually do some college, join the Air Force. You'll have way more time to work on it. You can take classes off duty. And you don't have the pressure of college life. You just need to pass the class or else you'll have to pay the tuition out of your own pocket. You have to buy your own books too. Just remember, whatever service you join, the military is your first priority. College comes after duty. BTW, I'm in the Air Force in case you couldn't tell.
You can take classes while you are enlisted. You get $4500 in tuition assistance per year. And you can get much shorter then 5 year contracts these days.
This might be something you would want to discuss with your parents and other family and see how they would feel about you in the millitary...I dont really know what to say as of yes or no...It would be smart as of saving tons of money for school and getting paid, instead of paying a loan off untill you are 40 or something...There are pros and cons for both though just put them together and think hard about how it will effect your life and stuff... I still would say talk to your family about it though...
If you go active duty, you can go to school when your time is up. Thats what I'm doing. You'll be much more mature when you finally do go to school, and taking classes will be a breeze. its not the maturity that will help its the discipline
honestly back in HS i used to get in trouble alot, even tho i was a really good student, i didnt have the discipline to sit there for 45 mins and listen to someone talk
i take some classes now, and i can tell you the little discipline you gain in basic and ait helps with those classes alot, i'm still immature but now i sit there and learn and do what i have to do
I was going to take another semester of classes but since I'm about to deploy i decided to put it off, even tho i would be able to complete it by that time
if you are get the sign on bonus i think its 20000 dollars.
and don't just join for the sake of joining you can get your head blown off
It's pretty stupid to go to college if you don't know what your gonna major in. Unless you have rich parents who will pay your way then you can just take easy classes and party it up.
A basic college degree ain't really gonna do shit. Your still gonna get a low end office job filling out useless paper work making barely any money and it's pretty much useless if you want to become a tradesmen.
I say join the military, but only if YOU want to. Not because your trying to impress anybody.
if you are get the sign on bonus i think its 20000 dollars.
and don't just join for the sake of joining you can get your head blown off its not $20k
it all depends on few factors
MOS [job], amount of years your signing on for, that months quota, and if you get extras schools [like Ranger, Airborne, Sapper]
an infantrymen is going to get a higher bonus then a cook or supply
The military has been a joke since post WWII.
Be a ranger **** what everyone says about the army they are elite. If i can keep clean i will join
If you want to go in for school, the Air Force or Navy would probably be a better bet than the Marines, unless you specifically want to be infantry.
Weigh your choices, and understand what the military life will be like. Talk to veterans, talk to anyone you know that's currently serving, read extensively, read about the positive and negative experiences. Find out what the military can and can't offer you.
Remember that your recruiter is there to RECRUIT you. Not to inform you. Not to help you make the best decision. The commercials (Army Strong, Few the Proud, etc) are designed by the best advertising minds in the world to make you want to join, not to give you a realistic idea of what service is like.
Decide what goals you want to achieve, then decide if you need the military to achieve those goals, specifically if you are willing to dedicate 8 years of your life to the military.
I'm not trying to discourage you from doing what you want to do, just educate yourself about it as much as you can so you know it is what you want to do before you make such a huge commitment.
The military has been a joke since post WWII. Way to make a point with intelligence and eloquence there buddy. I bet you really swayed a lot of people with your well thought out argument.
Do It!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, join the military tomorrow!!!! Go Air Force and be an enlisted flyer like a Loadmaster, FE or FCC on a 130 or c/5 or something in the mobility area. Flyers just seem to get more ass and lots of it. Lost count of how many chicks I nailed in Europe but its up there.
When flying, you get this thing called per diem. As an E-5 with per diem, I cleared $4479 per month. It sucks living out of hotels but you will not be in the hotel anyway. You will be out chasing an ample amount of foreign ass if youre not married. And DONT get married if youre going to be a flyer!!!!!!
School is very important!!! You can do this while serving and its not very difficult to accomplish. You will find that military supervisors are very open to education and will give you a little more slack than a civilian employer.
If you decide to stay in after your degree and officer school, you will automatically be paid at the top of scale for your officer's rank. This is because youre prior enlisted.
I agree with previous post....the miliary just isnt the same since post WWII. That was a great generation and dont think that we will ever see that again. Good luck and keep us posted.
Oh, dont let the recuiter tell you that you cant fly as an enlisted person. All larger and heavy aircraft have crewmembers other than pilots. And if he tells you that you will have to wait for an open position, its worth the wait and dont accept anything less.
Don't think, just do it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4XiSKFZi1s
I would say consider joining the ROTC detachment at your college or join the Reserve branch of any service or the Army or Air National Guard. It'll give you a good idea of what active duty is like but will still allow you to attend college full time, plus many of the tuition assistance programs still apply for reservists.
If you're impressive enough academically and militarily, after 2 years of ROTC, you can qualify for a full scholarship for your last 2 years, you're non-deployable, and you'll have a job waiting for you when you graduate. You are obligated to accept a commission, though, and have a 4 year commitment to the branch you choose.
Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. could you give me a list of these jobs...im not getting anywhere in my field ....and now im working security and they expect me to ressurect the company for 11.68 an hour---for that much im not doing anything--im way overworked for that much doing 2-3 peoples jobs...
not taking your thread but i feel the same. i don't like school and i don't like soft jobs. i want to be swat or anti terrorist.
Lately I've been unsure about what I want to do once college comes as far as major and where I even want to go. I don't want to be average. I mean I hear all of my friends going for the same shit I'm looking into, but I never hear any of them saying "I'm going to become a marine." Just seems more prestige to me and that I'd actually be doing something for others besides myself.
They say it pays for college, when do you get to go to school if your active?
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Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it.
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Im actually considering the Air Force once i graduate college this December because i have no clue what i want to do....
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Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years?
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If you go active duty, you can go to school when your time is up. Thats what I'm doing. You'll be much more mature when you finally do go to school, and taking classes will be a breeze.
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Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years? I have no idea how it works. I'd talk to a recruiter if you want to learn the specifics about how much money you could earn toward college, how it would work, when you could take classes, etc.
But my advice still remains: college first, then decide between civilian career or military career.
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Wouldn't be to avoid college. I want to do both. But I don't get how the $ works. What good is free tuition if I can't go for 5 years? I have no idea how it works. I'd talk to a recruiter if you want to learn the specifics about how much money you could earn toward college, how it would work, when you could take classes, etc.
But my advice still remains: college first, then decide between civilian career or military career. If you go in after getting a degree won't they offer to pay a portion of your college loans? Seems like it would be a smart thing to do on their part.
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Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. Not me! I joined to avoid college and I don't regret a minute of it. Sometimes I wished I had went to college but then I wouldn't have all the great memories of my time in the military. I definitley wouldn't have been to all the places I have or met the friends that I have. When I joined I didn't even want a degree or nothing but now I'm about to get my associates and then start working on my bachelors. It's all what you make of it. If you're looking to actually do some college, join the Air Force. You'll have way more time to work on it. You can take classes off duty. And you don't have the pressure of college life. You just need to pass the class or else you'll have to pay the tuition out of your own pocket. You have to buy your own books too. Just remember, whatever service you join, the military is your first priority. College comes after duty. BTW, I'm in the Air Force in case you couldn't tell.
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You can take classes while you are enlisted. You get $4500 in tuition assistance per year. And you can get much shorter then 5 year contracts these days.
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This might be something you would want to discuss with your parents and other family and see how they would feel about you in the millitary...I dont really know what to say as of yes or no...It would be smart as of saving tons of money for school and getting paid, instead of paying a loan off untill you are 40 or something...There are pros and cons for both though just put them together and think hard about how it will effect your life and stuff... I still would say talk to your family about it though...
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If you go active duty, you can go to school when your time is up. Thats what I'm doing. You'll be much more mature when you finally do go to school, and taking classes will be a breeze. its not the maturity that will help its the discipline
honestly back in HS i used to get in trouble alot, even tho i was a really good student, i didnt have the discipline to sit there for 45 mins and listen to someone talk
i take some classes now, and i can tell you the little discipline you gain in basic and ait helps with those classes alot, i'm still immature but now i sit there and learn and do what i have to do
I was going to take another semester of classes but since I'm about to deploy i decided to put it off, even tho i would be able to complete it by that time
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if you are get the sign on bonus i think its 20000 dollars.
and don't just join for the sake of joining you can get your head blown off
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It's pretty stupid to go to college if you don't know what your gonna major in. Unless you have rich parents who will pay your way then you can just take easy classes and party it up.
A basic college degree ain't really gonna do shit. Your still gonna get a low end office job filling out useless paper work making barely any money and it's pretty much useless if you want to become a tradesmen.
I say join the military, but only if YOU want to. Not because your trying to impress anybody.
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if you are get the sign on bonus i think its 20000 dollars.
and don't just join for the sake of joining you can get your head blown off its not $20k
it all depends on few factors
MOS [job], amount of years your signing on for, that months quota, and if you get extras schools [like Ranger, Airborne, Sapper]
an infantrymen is going to get a higher bonus then a cook or supply
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The military has been a joke since post WWII.
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Be a ranger **** what everyone says about the army they are elite. If i can keep clean i will join
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If you want to go in for school, the Air Force or Navy would probably be a better bet than the Marines, unless you specifically want to be infantry.
Weigh your choices, and understand what the military life will be like. Talk to veterans, talk to anyone you know that's currently serving, read extensively, read about the positive and negative experiences. Find out what the military can and can't offer you.
Remember that your recruiter is there to RECRUIT you. Not to inform you. Not to help you make the best decision. The commercials (Army Strong, Few the Proud, etc) are designed by the best advertising minds in the world to make you want to join, not to give you a realistic idea of what service is like.
Decide what goals you want to achieve, then decide if you need the military to achieve those goals, specifically if you are willing to dedicate 8 years of your life to the military.
I'm not trying to discourage you from doing what you want to do, just educate yourself about it as much as you can so you know it is what you want to do before you make such a huge commitment.
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The military has been a joke since post WWII. Way to make a point with intelligence and eloquence there buddy. I bet you really swayed a lot of people with your well thought out argument.
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Do It!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, join the military tomorrow!!!! Go Air Force and be an enlisted flyer like a Loadmaster, FE or FCC on a 130 or c/5 or something in the mobility area. Flyers just seem to get more ass and lots of it. Lost count of how many chicks I nailed in Europe but its up there.
When flying, you get this thing called per diem. As an E-5 with per diem, I cleared $4479 per month. It sucks living out of hotels but you will not be in the hotel anyway. You will be out chasing an ample amount of foreign ass if youre not married. And DONT get married if youre going to be a flyer!!!!!!
School is very important!!! You can do this while serving and its not very difficult to accomplish. You will find that military supervisors are very open to education and will give you a little more slack than a civilian employer.
If you decide to stay in after your degree and officer school, you will automatically be paid at the top of scale for your officer's rank. This is because youre prior enlisted.
I agree with previous post....the miliary just isnt the same since post WWII. That was a great generation and dont think that we will ever see that again. Good luck and keep us posted.
Oh, dont let the recuiter tell you that you cant fly as an enlisted person. All larger and heavy aircraft have crewmembers other than pilots. And if he tells you that you will have to wait for an open position, its worth the wait and dont accept anything less.
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Don't think, just do it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4XiSKFZi1s
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I would say consider joining the ROTC detachment at your college or join the Reserve branch of any service or the Army or Air National Guard. It'll give you a good idea of what active duty is like but will still allow you to attend college full time, plus many of the tuition assistance programs still apply for reservists.
If you're impressive enough academically and militarily, after 2 years of ROTC, you can qualify for a full scholarship for your last 2 years, you're non-deployable, and you'll have a job waiting for you when you graduate. You are obligated to accept a commission, though, and have a 4 year commitment to the branch you choose.
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Go to college. Even if you're not sure what you want to do after, having a degree is useful. You don't need to get a job in that specific field, just a general degree helps. There are many jobs that require a degree, but no specific degree.
Joining the military just to avoid college is a bad idea, you probably won't be happy. After college, you can become an officer in the military, but don't do it just because you don't want to go to school, you'll regret it. could you give me a list of these jobs...im not getting anywhere in my field ....and now im working security and they expect me to ressurect the company for 11.68 an hour---for that much im not doing anything--im way overworked for that much doing 2-3 peoples jobs...
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not taking your thread but i feel the same. i don't like school and i don't like soft jobs. i want to be swat or anti terrorist.